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re: Stolen Land Acknowledgment On My Kid's Syllabus

Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:32 am to
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:32 am to
It's not just just at universities. It's on television, social media etc. Our youngest kid is 14 and it's amazing the shite these kids and young adults are exposed to.
Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:37 am to
That’s for a MATH class? WTF. That teacher should be fired. That’s ridiculous. And rather fringe/radical.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62337 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:37 am to
quote:

The noble indigenous man riding his mighty steed across the land. Nonsense. Only after the Spanish brought horses across the Atlantic did the natives have a beast of burden other than their women. Wheels? ha. Primitive metal work? Ha. Now knapping flints was where they excelled. And Working hides.



Let's not forget the cosmopolitan ritual of human sacrifice. Too bad those evil colonizers stopped this noble practice.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44116 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:38 am to
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Let's not forget the cosmopolitan ritual of human sacrifice.


Don't forget the slavery to go along with it.
Posted by HughsWorkPhone
Member since Sep 2017
1420 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:40 am to
The only difference between Europeans and Indians was capability, not intent.

If this lady thinks for a second the Indians simply chose not to colonize Europe she’s an idiot. They were conquering each other as fast as they could
This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 11:41 am
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22787 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:42 am to
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"Our course takes place on land that European colonizers stole from Indigenous people through violence. The Kiikaapoi (Kickapoo), Peoria, Sauk and Meskwaki, Bodéwadmiakiwen (Potawatomi), Miami, and Oceti Šakówin (Sioux) peoples lived and shepherded the land that is now considered (name of current town where university is). Further, enslaved people, who were primarily Indigenous and of African descent


Whoever wrote that does not know what "indigenous" means and is just using it as a codeword for "good, non-europeans." And people of European descent are evil.
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8920 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:44 am to
A Chinese agent acting to subvert the minds of US students. Send that a-hole back to their Chinese utopia.
Posted by mattfromnj
New Jersey
Member since Mar 2020
597 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:51 am to
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Nearly all land in the world was taken from someone else at some point, generally through violence. The US is not unique in this regard.



I agree but that assumes they're actually interested in the truth. There's no good faith here. They're just trying to get white kids to hate themselves.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52854 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:54 am to
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There's no good faith here. They're just trying to get white kids to hate themselves.

That's exactly what this is and a lot of them don't even realize it. My daughter will say some things sometimes where I'll feel compelled to make a counter argument as to why I think that's BS.

I hope she's at least somewhat listening. Your dad isn't exactly the coolest person to you when you are 14.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72705 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:59 am to
fall, in these type of situations where you hear your kids say something you know they’ve been coached or taught that is nonsense. Where/How do you get material or references to educate them?

reason I ask is I want my kids to learn non PC American History. The stuff you and I learned. But I’m not sure where to get the books, materials, or make the time to do so
This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 12:02 pm
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:02 pm to
Tell your kid to ask this teacher if this teacher lives in a house with a mortgage. If so, have your kid request the teacher give the house to an indigenous person while still paying the mortgage. If the teacher says "NO", then have your kid tell the teacher how irresponsible the teacher is acting. How could the teacher engage in social justice and equity work while living on stolen land, knowing it was stolen, and not give it back?
Your kid needs to tell this teacher that this type of unethical behavior demands that the teacher resign immediately.
Actually, your kid should demand that this teacher move to another country too since this teacher has no right to live on stolen land. The teacher is trespassing.
Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli
Member since Jun 2020
1622 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:12 pm to
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European colonizers stole from Indigenous people


Just poor immigrants looking for a better life and bringing much needed diversity to the racist natives.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52854 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:28 pm to
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fall, in these type of situations where you hear your kids say something you know they’ve been coached or taught that is nonsense. Where/How do you get material or references to educate them?

My daughter goes to a fairly conservative private school so I haven't had as many issues with her school curriculum as I have with things she's exposed to in pop culture and social media (you'll have a hard time keeping them off of it too).

She's definitely said things to me like "that's because she's a privileged white woman" or something similar. She learned that somewhere and is just parroting what she's heard. Through trial and error, I've found the absolute worst thing I can do is start called them "dumbass kids" or whatever

She's old enough where I'll just engage in conversation as to why she thinks that person's skin color had anything to do with a certain situation or outcome. She'll tell me and I'll make counter arguments. It's a different world than I grew up in for sure.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30458 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:52 pm to
they were conquered like bitches

Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17052 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:53 pm to
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And the point is that the people who had the land stolen from them, stole the land they were on from others.


Who did the Natives steal the land from?
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10878 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Who did the Natives steal the land from?


From me and my people
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107304 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:01 pm to
Show me a piece of land in the world that wasn't stolen from other people by violence at one point or another. Every square inch of the world has been conquered by violence.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18559 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:01 pm to
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All colleges, even small ones are liberal indoctrination camps.


Small ones are usually much worse than say, a big state school. Smaller the college, the more air tight the echo chamber is. Big state schools have more diverse thought.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44116 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Who did the Natives steal the land from?


The natives that proceeded them. There were multiple waves of immigration over the land bridge from Asia over several thousand years.

And I haven't even touched on all the fun surrounding the Aztec and Maya.




This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 1:04 pm
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9258 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:10 pm to
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You won’t find any Republicans in the Political Science Dept of any of these teaching institutions.


bullshite.

I majored in Poli Sci and the conservative professors were well represented.
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