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re: Statues: Florida replacing statue of Confederate general in US Capitol with Mary Bethune
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:57 am to tigerpimpbot
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:57 am to tigerpimpbot
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I mean I don't agree with the legislation but at least they didn't go all trash bag like Mitch. There was a democratic process involved unlike in NOLA
Yeah you can't hate the process.
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:57 am to SCLibertarian
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politically correct America giving the Taliban and ISIS a run for its money in destroying historical monuments and statues.
Dude, quit crying.
I am not for taking them down, but they aren't being burned and destroyed by the governments. They're being relocated and almost all will likely be in museums one day.
They had one that was destroyed by angry SJWs, not the state.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:57 am to GetCocky11
The white guilt will never end.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:58 am to Topwater Trout
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for black people...not racist
She started the school during segregation.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:59 am to GetCocky11
Time to rustle some jimmies. Outside of being born in Florida what did Edmund Kirby Smith actually contribute to Florida? He left when he was 17 to go to West Point, fought on the losing side of the Civil War, and ended his career teaching and living in Tennessee. On the other hand, Bethune actually started an all girls university in the state of Florida.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:02 am to GetCocky11
Done
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:02 am to TheCaterpillar
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I am not for taking them down, but they aren't being burned and destroyed by the governments. They're being relocated and almost all will likely be in museums one day.
It's not crying, it's being alarmed at the creeping soft totalitarianism masked by the Puritan desire to not upset people. History isn't and shouldn't be comfortable.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:07 am to SCLibertarian
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Every African American member of the General Assembly agreed to put it there in 2000. And given the flag was right next to the monument honoring the South Carolinians who died defending their state, how is their anything wrong with it? Where does it end? You want to tear down every statue of a pre-Civil Rights white man on the statehouse grounds? Rename streets and buildings at USC? That's the road we're headed down because of white-guilt liberals.
As a fellow South Carolinian, you should know that there is a difference between SC putting the Confederate Flag on the State House grounds in 1961 vs. SC erecting the soldiers monument in 1879.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 9:09 am
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:13 am to GetCocky11
Florida is 16.5% black and they're caving to this shite 
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:14 am to GetCocky11
I do. I didn't support it on the State House dome. I supported it being where it was at the Confederate soldier's monument. What gets me is a politician using a tragedy to undo a political compromise that was near unanimous by shaming people into supporting something that has zero effect on policy or zero effect on actual race relations. Taking down a flag does nothing. Fixing rural schools will. Providing a way for low-income South Carolinians to attend vocational or tech schools in lieu of college will. Ending our ridiculously punitive mandatory sentencing laws for non-violent drug crimes will. To me it's also an issue of priorities: we ignore institutional problems and focus on aesthetics.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:25 am to SCLibertarian
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What gets me is a politician using a tragedy to undo a political compromise that was near unanimous by shaming people into supporting something that has zero effect on policy or zero effect on actual race relations.
Maybe you're looking at it backwards. Maybe most of the politicians who were shamed into supporting the flag being displayed in order to keep their status as elected Republicans finally saw a chance to get out from under that. The ones who didn't support it still made their voices known during that debate.
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Taking down a flag does nothing.
Maybe not, but it sure as hell improved the image of this state.
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Fixing rural schools will. Providing a way for low-income South Carolinians to attend vocational or tech schools in lieu of college will. Ending our ridiculously punitive mandatory sentencing laws for non-violent drug crimes will.
I mean that is fine, but the flag debate didn't take away from any of that. It was a special session that took a couple weeks.
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To me it's also an issue of priorities: we ignore institutional problems and focus on aesthetics.
SC's government is pretty corrupt. This shouldn't be a shock.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 9:27 am
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:27 am to SCLibertarian
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Every African American member of the General Assembly agreed to put it there in 2000. And given the flag was right next to the monument honoring the South Carolinians who died defending their state, how is their anything wrong with it? Where does it end? You want to tear down every statue of a pre-Civil Rights white man on the statehouse grounds? Rename streets and buildings at USC? That's the road we're headed down because of white-guilt liberals.
We are so short sighted. All the terrible things that are said of confederates could be said of the Romans, Greeks, ancient Jews and Egyptians. Its pandering to
the lowest common denominator
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:49 am to GetCocky11
Bethune is at least somewhat deserving. At least they didn't put up a statue of a sleazy crackhead like DC did. I still can't believe that.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:58 am to GetCocky11
I should ask Gov. Scott if I can have the statue and put in my front yard
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:00 am to LarryCLE
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She started the school during segregation.
and your point is?
Name historically white universities please
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:01 am to Topwater Trout
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Name historically white universities please
Technically most universities that existed before the end of segregation were white only universities.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:06 am to Topwater Trout
I think his point is she started a school for black kids because the other schools wouldn’t admit them.
Whatever your current criticism of HBCUs, she founded a black school when such an inauguration was necessary.
Whatever your current criticism of HBCUs, she founded a black school when such an inauguration was necessary.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:08 am to Packer
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Technically most universities that existed before the end of segregation were white only universities.
yet we still have black universities...so its ok to have it one way and not the other. This applies to everything not just colleges.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:12 am to Topwater Trout
Anyone can go to an HBCU.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 10:12 am
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:26 am to Topwater Trout
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Name historically white universities please
North Dakota State, South Dakota State, Wyoming....
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