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re: States without income tax - how much of an effect does it have on standard of living?

Posted on 2/21/18 at 7:58 am to
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 7:58 am to
My property tax was $9,000 last year.

Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 7:58 am to
10% sales tax on top of property and income taxes

I'll take Dallas property taxes and live in a school district that I wouldn't hesitate to send my children
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:00 am to
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Basically just property taxes. Stuff isn't any more expensive in Dallas than in other similar areas. Sales tax is still just 8.25%.

If you have kids and live in a good school district, the property taxes are worth it. And if you rent, you don't pay them.


But isn't rent higher as well because the owners of the buildings or homes have to account for the high property taxes?
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 8:11 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84787 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:01 am to
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Make no mistake you pay one way or another.




Yeah, but the nice thing about property taxes is you get to decide how much you're going to pay. Want lower taxes? Buy a reasonable home.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:01 am to
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Louisiana butt fooks


Try Oregon pal.

9% income tax and property taxes comparable to WA state where there's only on average 9% sales tax and no income tax.

Oregon goes in dry compared to LA.

Not even mentioning fishing/hunting licenses.

Only thing LA has is ridiculous insurance rates.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5515 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:03 am to
You really only benefit if you rent or live in a low COL area within a state that has no state income tax
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40082 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:03 am to
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I'll take Dallas property taxes and live in a school district that I wouldn't hesitate to send my children


BOOM!!!!

Some baws in another thread were quoted with spending 14k on ONE kid in BR.

That one kid costs more than a 3400 sqft McMansion property tax!!!
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17132 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:05 am to
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BOOM!!!!

Some baws in another thread were quoted with spending 14k on ONE kid in BR.

That one kid costs more than a 3400 sqft McMansion property tax!!!


Most parents of High Schoolers pay $8k/kid but there are certainly schools in the $14K range. I moved to a good school district in the burbs for that exact reason.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:05 am to
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But isn't rent higher


It really isn't though, at least in Dallas. That's what I've said. It's lower than New Orleans, Houston, not too much higher than baton rouge, lower than Charlotte, I could go on but I'm tired of googling.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:07 am to
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You really only benefit if you rent or live in a low COL area within a state that has no state income tax


I lived in Knoxville and now live in Chattanooga, both renting and owning homes. I’ve saved a ton of money in taxes if I considered living in similar areas in Louisiana. This is full of shite for Tenn.

Once you factor in car and home insurance (I’m from south Louisiana,) the savings in Tenn are crazy.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 8:11 am
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:08 am to
You still pay basically the same amount, just through different means. About the only way to really "win" is to live in a shithole part of the state with incredibly low land value, but somehow still make a ton of money. The nice thing for me at least is that I pay high property taxes at the county level, but it seems to be put to good use in my local area (parks, schools, maintenance, etc.). Whereas at a state income tax level, you pay even if you live in that shithole area and don't reap the benefits.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5135 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:08 am to
I doubt seriously id be paying 6K in state income tax, but I prefer it this way. Seems like I pay for my slice of Texas which I control somewhat. I could live into a cheaper house, etc. Could always get a less paying job with income tax, but that is a perverse incentive.
Posted by mworld938
Jax Beach
Member since Sep 2008
1626 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:17 am to
When did Oregon get sales tax? I was stationed in Coos Bay (Coast Guard) and there was no sales tax. Washington & California did not collect sales tax if you showed a Oregon driver's license due to bilateral agreements. I was a legal Florida resident due to military exemption, so I didn't pay Oregon income tax. It was nice to keep my own money.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:19 am to
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When did Oregon get sales tax?


We don't have one. Eta...although that stupid bitch Brown would love to implement 1. She's done nothing but raise taxes in other ways and call them fees to get around needing a vote since the taxes they've tried to pass haven't been passed.

quote:

Washington & California did not collect sales tax if you showed a Oregon driver's license due to bilateral agreements. 


Still that way.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 8:23 am
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:22 am to
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They just make it up with property tax.



Moved from Prairieville, LA to central Florida and property taxes aren't that much higher.

They make up the difference by tons of toll roads and all the out of towners that drive em.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 8:26 am
Posted by mworld938
Jax Beach
Member since Sep 2008
1626 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:25 am to
Gotcha. I misread your post. You said 9% income tax and not sales tax. Oregon is a weird state. I liked the Bend/Sunriver area and Newport was cool. Don't miss the weather or the Coosalopes.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32535 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:25 am to
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So rent?


I would only considering renting under a few circumstances. I have always purchased a house/condo in an area where I thought I could later turn a profit. You get to build equity.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:28 am to
quote:

I liked the Bend/Sunriver area


Still trying to find my way there permanently.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Their property taxes are higher
Yes, but it doesn’t more than make up for it.

Here is a basic example:

If you own a home assessed at $220,000 and have an income of $150,000, you would pay:

In Houston: $4,970 in property tax

In New Orleans: $1,628 in property tax and $7,750 in state income tax for a total of $9,378

So you’d be paying $4,408 more in New Orleans than Houston if you make $150k and have a $220k home.

Posted by Brazoria Bengal
Your Wildest Dreams
Member since Nov 2016
112 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:29 am to
If you bust your tail and make decent money, it's awesome.
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