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re: Stanford swimmer who raped unconsciousness woman gets shorter sentence

Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:13 am to
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21764 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:13 am to
Progressive goes both ways. This time it's taking care of the criminal who happens to have a little money.


Remember boys and girls the most important color in the criminal justice system is green. I spent 25 years in the system and lawyers love the color green. Just because a lawyer becomes a judge doesn't mean he all of a sudden became a moral person
Posted by Boagni Swamp
Right next door to No Face
Member since Oct 2015
912 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:46 am to
Do women have the power to ruin a guy's life with a false rape accusation? Sure. What the hell does that have to do with this?

This dude humped an unconscious girl behind a dumpster. Thats undisputed. And that's all you need to know. It's rape. Period.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:53 am to
I love how people act like the things that can be said about this case have to fall into a narrow range.

I'll help. Mothers. Fathers. Teach your daughters that unfortunately, not all men are good people. For that matter, given the rate of lesbian rape on campuses these days, neither are all women. So, teach your daughters that becoming incapacitated in public because you drank too much is really fricking dumb. Oh. While you're at it, teach your boys that it's really fricking dumb too because, well, I can imagine bad things might happen to a guy passed out drunk behind a dumpster.

Now. With that out of the way.

frick this entitled little rapist prick. Yes, he is every bit as much a rapist as any other rapist. NOTHING I said regarding teaching sound judgement to assist oneself in avoiding bad things(including rape) makes him less a rapist. He is 100% rapist and 6 month is a joke.

I have no idea why people can't hold both of the above thoughts in their heads at once.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21764 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 8:04 am to
quote:

This dude humped an unconscious girl behind a dumpster. Thats undisputed. And that's all you need to know. It's rape. Period.


I agree 100%
Posted by forever lsu30
Member since Nov 2005
4042 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:27 am to
Purely curious:

What happens when a male is under sedation for a medical or dental procedure & he begins to grope a female nurse/tech or doctor/dentist, either before or coming out of it? Even worse, he gets all crazy strong & ends up raping someone?
I've seen this play out a lot in regards to grabbing/heavy flirting-mostly at the dentist. Hell, I've seen a guy attempt to make out with his female dentist after a light procedure with some laughing gas. Is he a predator?
After my last surgery my wife said I tried to get my nurses to go to Vegas with us for a 3some wild weekend while I was coming out of sedation (I don't believe her, but she's never really let that one go...).

Is that grabby/rape guy a rapist? He was under the influence, likely doesn't remember, & could be the greatest human on earth otherwise.

Where does the owness of one's self come in in regards to the law in this situation? Drinking/recreational drugs use situation that leads to rape is illegal because the guy put the booze in his system & is expected to maintain his wits vs. medical/dental sedation where the "unaware" male becomes rapey...Also, what if the MALE is drugged, only has a drink or 2, but then ends up in a raping act?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64656 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:29 am to
I think this guy should be sentenced to a trial by combat against the living Prince Oberyn Martell. He cannot choose a warrior/champion.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 9:30 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64656 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:36 am to
quote:

I've seen this play out a lot in regards to grabbing/heavy flirting-mostly at the dentist. Hell, I've seen a guy attempt to make out with his female dentist after a light procedure with some laughing gas. Is he a predator?
After my last surgery my wife said I tried to get my nurses to go to Vegas with us for a 3some wild weekend while I was coming out of sedation (I don't believe her, but she's never really let that one go...).

Is that grabby/rape guy a rapist? He was under the influence, likely doesn't remember, & could be the greatest human on earth otherwise



I am a strong believer in recreational substance abuse not being an adequate excuse. Alcohol especially. If you suck just because you had alcohol, that is a strike against you period. In fact, it might be more indicative of what really sits inside you, like truth serum. Both possibilities should be weighed.

Assuming it's a consistent pattern of behavior. If it's one time, I very likely would not hold it against anyone. One time or not, everyone should take responsibility for their actions, period. I feel sorry for the people that don't, and wake up the next day to laugh it off as just simple drunkenness. That's someone to me who doesn't understand how their actions effect other people.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18919 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Where does the owness of one's self come in in regards to the law in this situation?


I would assume it has something to do with being put in that state while under supervision of a licensed health care professional vs being out in public in a self induced stupor.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 9:47 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64656 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:49 am to
quote:

I love how people act like the things that can be said about this case have to fall into a narrow range.

I'll help. Mothers. Fathers. Teach your daughters that unfortunately, not all men are good people. For that matter, given the rate of lesbian rape on campuses these days, neither are all women. So, teach your daughters that becoming incapacitated in public because you drank too much is really fricking dumb. Oh. While you're at it, teach your boys that it's really fricking dumb too because, well, I can imagine bad things might happen to a guy passed out drunk behind a dumpster



Im convinced there's very little teaching these days. Little Johnny and Cindy are raised to be rich and good looking and popular like athletes and actors. That's the American dream. This kid is everything that's in that dream. Take the easy way, and flaunt how easy it was.

Athlete, Stanford.

I think kids like this should be kicked out of school and we shouldn't hear a word.

Instead, we gravitate towards these entitled types for some reason.

Long gone are the days of the hard working, decent, and responsible American man who fought in world War 2, cared about the people around him, and did the right thing whether he got recognized or not.

I had no idea I was growing up in such a heartless, narcissistic, and greedy world. Things really need to change in this fricking country. I'm exhausted by the way things work.

Do I sound old or what?

Posted by Boagni Swamp
Right next door to No Face
Member since Oct 2015
912 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:02 am to
quote:

If you suck just because you had alcohol, that is a strike against you period. In fact, it might be more indicative of what really sits inside you, like truth serum.


You know the bottle ain't to blame, and I ain't trying to

Cuz it don't make you do a thing, it just lets you


From Women Without Whiskey by The Drive-by Truckers
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38679 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:22 am to
I know that there's flap about his yearbook pic being used instead of his mugshot...

I think they should post a good pic next to every rapist's mugshot. Let women know that not all rapists look like rapists.
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:57 pm to
This came across my FB feed and I had to lay into a couple of people for the sheer ignorance of this pic and what it claims. The person who created it deserves to be punched repeatedly. Over 7000 people had shared this idiotic pic.



My problem with it? See the poor black woman who who is being chanpioned as a victim? Yeah try again and this time provide the REAL story.

That stupid bitch is Shanesha Taylor. Shanesha left her 2 kids (age 2 and an infant 6 months old) in a locked car where the temps were over 100 degrees. She left them there and they were in the car for over 45 minutes until passerby rescued the kids. So of course the stupid bitch was arrested!! She is lucky her kids didn't die!

So Shanesha lied and said she didnt have money daycare and was homeless in fact her parents were more than happy to watch the kids and to let her live with them but Shanesha didnt want to abide by their house rules.

Idiots took pity on Shanesha and her fake story of woe and donated 114,000 for her to be able to afford daycare and schooling for her kids. Shanesha took that money and used it to fund her boyfriend's rap album.

That's poor woman, right? Sounds like she was really done wrong, huh?

Yeah, the rapist deserves a whole lot more punishment and is a POS. The facts alone clearly demonstrate that but these SJWs had to downright lie to whip up even more outrage. Idiots!!


Posted by DirtyMike
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2014
1175 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:16 pm to


He looks like Bad Luck Brian
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

This dude humped an unconscious girl behind a dumpster. Thats undisputed. And that's all you need to know. It's rape. Period.


What if he was blackout drunk and she was black out drunk and made a mistake. When busted he ran because he was drunk and busted and she just acted passed out and in her enormous embarrassment claimed she was passed out and remembers nothing which is mostly true and is mostly true for him.

Has that been discussed? I am not reading this entire thread.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:36 pm to
How is getting raped less embarrassing than having drunk sex?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38370 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:40 pm to
quote:


What if he was blackout drunk and she was black out drunk and made a mistake. When busted he ran because he was drunk and busted and she just acted passed out and in her enormous embarrassment claimed she was passed out and remembers nothing which is mostly true and is mostly true for him.

Has that been discussed? I am not reading this entire thread.



Yes, other people have come here and tried to apologize for this guy's rape. You aren't the first.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:31 pm to
Just read the letter that this lady authored. Should be required reading for anyone that has daughter. Carry on.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

one count of raping an unconscious person, one count of raping an intoxicated person, two counts of sexual penetration with a foreign object, and one count of assault while attempting to commit rape.


this is ab-frickin-gsurd
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Getting drunk and raped is NOT your fault


people have no personal responsibility of what happens when they get drunk?

quote:

Getting drunk and raping someone is your fault.


same question as above

quote:

Cut and dry.


not really see above
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38370 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:51 pm to
you must be a big Todd Akin supporter huh
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