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re: Stanford swimmer who raped unconsciousness woman gets shorter sentence

Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:00 pm to
don't know who that is. I just like to play devils advocate...they were both drunk. I doubt he intended on raping her....or better yet that he thought/knew that he was raping ehr
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:04 pm to
she was unconscious. At what point would you consider her consent vitiated, if she was dead?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:09 pm to
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she was unconscious


was she conscious when the act began?
Did they know each other?
Do you think he set out to rape her?
Was he of sound mind when he began having sex with her?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:16 pm to
I'm not going to hold your hand through this because you're too lazy to read any of the numerous in depth news stories about this which cover all of these specifics in graphic detail.

Maybe you don't want to know because you're afraid it will shatter your ridiculous notion that "legitimate rape" never occurs, women are all liars, etc. It's really just sad.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:23 pm to
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which cover all of these specifics in graphic detail.


just read 3 news articles and my questions weren't answered. They were at the same party which leads me to believe they had met. Whether or not she was unconscious prior to the act is unknown.

The prosecutors must have thought the case was weak if they were only going for 6 years.

quote:

Maybe you don't want to know because you're afraid it will shatter your ridiculous notion that "legitimate rape" never occurs


this is one of the most ridiculous conclusions I have ever read on here.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:38 pm to
you can write the rapist in jail since you apparently are such a big fan
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:40 pm to
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Whether or not she was unconscious prior to the act is unknown.



Great, so I can meet your black out drunk daughter at a party, and drag her behind a dumpster, and continue to have sex with her after she passes out? You won't mind? Thanks dad! You are literally a rape apologist. Ironically, I'm sure youre one of the people going ape shite on the Poliboard about migrants doing the exact same thing in Europe.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:41 pm to
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REG861



Calm down. Why are you so mad about this?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:42 pm to
because I think rape is bad, and he thinks it's ok? Does that need to be elaborated upon?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:42 pm to
another brilliant conclusion on your part
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:44 pm to
Do you honestly think it's ok to continue to 'penetrate' someone you just met, who is so drunk that they fall unconscious in the act? Yes or no.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:44 pm to
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because I think rape is bad, and he thinks it's ok?




quote:

Does that need to be elaborated upon?


Yes, I would in fact recommend that you not only further elaborate, but first reassess using logical thinking and not emotional overreaction.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38370 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:50 pm to
Feel free to answer my above question, as well.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64545 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:51 pm to
I don't typically deign to respond to asinine questions.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Do you honestly think it's ok to continue to 'penetrate' someone you just met, who is so drunk that they fall unconscious in the act?


Hell no!

Why is the guy held responsible for what happens when both parties are drunk but the woman bears no responsibility? They call it impaired for a reason...because people generally aren't capable of making the best decisions. I have no idea if this guy intended on raping a vulnerable woman or if he was so impaired he thought it was consensual sex...and I believe they only sought 6 years because of the alcohol involved.

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

I have no idea if this guy intended on raping a vulnerable woman or if he was so impaired he thought it was consensual sex..


does the latter somehow absolve him of rape?

serious question

if I drive impaired, it doesn't matter if I think I'm ok to drive or not, I'm still getting a DUI
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

does the latter somehow absolve him of rape?


no

quote:

if I drive impaired, it doesn't matter if I think I'm ok to drive or not, I'm still getting a DUI


as you should. Do you agree people make bad choices when alcohol is involved?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:01 pm to
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Do you agree people make bad choices when alcohol is involved?


of course

as do women...

but if he was so drunk that he didn't know she was passed out...that is still rape
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:03 pm to
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but if he was so drunk that he didn't know she was passed out...that is still rape


Is it?
Posted by Wermanium
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Do you honestly think it's ok to continue to 'penetrate' someone you just met, who is so drunk that they fall unconscious in the act? Yes or no.


I don't think in the Stanford case he ever penetrated her. He was so drunk he was just dry humping her.
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