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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:53 am to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:53 am to
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I'm not surprised that the police paint a picture that it was totally justifiable


I'm not surprised the community paints the picture that the cop gunned down an unarmed man with his hands up...question is who is more reliable?

They all want justice...and have already made their minds up that justice will be a conviction...without knowing all the evidence
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:55 am to
Dumb bitch on CNN "Thats why we need direct communication to whomever is making the call to engage... We can tell them that they are just throwing water bottles"
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:55 am to
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question is who is more reliable?

This is simply a matter of perception. There's nothing to say police are inherently more reliable. They may be practically more reliable. That doesn't actually govern each individual instance and serves as a shield to their ongoing accountability.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477368 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:55 am to
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Does cnn order these hosts to make Wilson look as bad as possible and to contradict their guests if they say anything claiming Wilson might have been justified?

does a bear shite in the woods?
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:56 am to
What is this stupid woman talking about?

She wants to tell the police if the bottles thrown were only water or whatever?

And the people who get caught in the crossfire are idiots for being out there
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:56 am to
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the808bass
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:56 am to
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We can tell them that they are just throwing water bottles"


Heres a thought. Tell them to stop throwing shite at the police.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:56 am to
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So omitting facts that help frame your argument is paying attention?

Feel free to point out the facts I'm omitting.
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:56 am to
so I didn't misunderstand
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:56 am to
She's talking about kids in the streets now

What kind of parent brings kids to this?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:58 am to
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We can tell them that they are just throwing water bottles"


Throwing water bottles is peaceful...the cops may be thirsty

The media is retarded.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:58 am to
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What kind of parent brings kids to this?



The type of parent involved in this isnt the surprising thing.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:58 am to
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I think the police have those same tendencies. So, when they get a call saying there's a guy in WalMart brandishing a gun, their first instinct is "OMG, it is happening here." This leads to the escalation of a non-violent incident to lethal by perception.


Your thought process is wrong. As a police officer responds to a "man with a gun" call they think of scenarios and how they are going to respond and react. The man with a gun calls happen thousands of times a day and you, the average Joe, never hear about it. Why? Because they are usually handled the right way.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36339 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:59 am to
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Feel free to point out the facts I'm omitting.


Paige just did on the last page.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128857 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:04 pm to
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Paige just did on the last page.

I didn't omit any details which were asked for. I said "4 unarmed black men were killed in the last month" and linked an article which gave a rundown of every instance. I'm not sure how that's omitting details.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:05 pm to
Even Ray Kelly says Ferguson PD is out of control. That's pretty bad. I agree. Glad the feds are there to babysit this idiot PD.


LINK
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:05 pm to
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This is simply a matter of perception.


Just b/c there are a few bad cops doesn't make them all bad.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:06 pm to
What are they going to try next to quell the violent portion of the "protesters"?

Cops in military garb - didn't work
Fire them and bring in State Troopers to pacify them - didn't work
have national guard protect troopers - didn't work

What's left? Let them run amok until they venture too far and let the general population eliminate them one by one? No. Then fricking wreck them with police force and end this shite so that neighborhood can get some rest.

Sell it now. Tell the neighbors what you are going to do. Why you are going to do it and to whom you are going to do it to. The rest of you stay off the streets for a few nights while we take out the trash.

Is there anything left to do other than keep coddling criminals which is part of this freaking problem anyway.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Paige
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Member since Oct 2010
85640 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:07 pm to
They asked them to cease protesting
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128857 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:09 pm to
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Your thought process is wrong. As a police officer responds to a "man with a gun" call they think of scenarios and how they are going to respond and react. The man with a gun calls happen thousands of times a day and you, the average Joe, never hear about it. Why? Because they are usually handled the right way.


Which is very comforting to everyone except the family and loved ones of the ones where it's handled wrongly. I get that it's not an easy job. Where does accountability come in to a situation like that? Do we just say "here's some money" to the family and say "it's a tough job, you wouldn't understand"? Is there anything that can be done practically or is it just the reality of life?
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