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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:50 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:50 am to
That's not the concept I was going for. Thanks for the suggestion.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 10:51 am
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:51 am to
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You want a link to your post in this thread?




It's page 685. Don't act like it was the last page.


You blamed them for a while, dont act like it was an isolated post.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:53 am to
I still blame them for their role in it. If I've ever appeared to blame them for individual rioter's or looter's actions, then that was wrong. I do blame them for allowing the situation to escalate in the fashion it did. That in no way means the criminal responsibility for the looters is mitigated or explained. It does help explain the overall picture. See if you can put that puzzle together in your mind or if you want to play gotcha for 5 more pages.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 10:54 am
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:53 am to
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I don't agree with that. White cop killed a black kid, Jesse and Al aren't staying away from that no matter the "facts."


Wouldn't have been the first time that happened in STL. Who knows. We'll never know.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:54 am to
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well, this is going to get stupider: KKK holding fundraiser for Darren Wilson



Far be it for me to say anything that may be construed as defending the KKK, but why is the KKK getting involved any worse than the Black Panther Party or the Nation of Islam?

Serious question. They're all horrible groups, why is one more hateful group getting involved going to make it worse than it already is?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:55 am to
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Far be it for me to say anything that may be construed as defending the KKK, but why is the KKK getting involved any worse than the Black Panther Party or the Nation of Islam?


It's not. It would be to the media as the NOI directs traffic and the BPP holds the bullhorn and both appear with the family at events.
Posted by Paige
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:56 am to
Sorry, I read an article that linked to that one, so I didn't realize the details were posted. There are a number of differences between the cases. The only one I think can't even be justified is Eric garner. But, not a teen and not shot
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:57 am to
Did you read the others?

A guy picks up a BB gun in Walmart and gets shot in the store? That's justified?

A guy is riding his bike and that means he matches the description? Maybe I'm too empathetic. But I would hope like hell if I got shot for picking up a BB gun in Walmart that someone would goddamn protest for me.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:02 am to
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still blame them for their role in it. If I've ever appeared to blame them for individual rioter's or looter's actions, then that was wrong. I do blame them for allowing the situation to escalate in the fashion it did. That in no way means the criminal responsibility for the looters is mitigated or explained. It does help explain the overall picture


I believe they have a role in it as well, but not blaming them top to bottom doesn't mean I am defending them no matter what. I was simply stating why I thought they mishandled it.
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See if you can put that puzzle together in your mind

I'm pretty sure my 5 yr old can wrap her mind around any one of your statements. It's the flip flopping and denying of other statements to prove a point that seems so confusing.
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or if you want to play gotcha for 5 more pages.

you get yourself, I don't need to
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:04 am
Posted by Paige
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:02 am to
How did the cops know it was a BB gun?
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Two police officers responded to a 911 call about a man waving a gun at customers inside a Walmart store. According the Beavercreek police department, 22-year-old John Crawford disregarded officers' orders to disarm before being fatally shot in the chest.


He shouldn't have resisted and fought with the officers
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a scuffle ensued and Parker was tased repeatedly when he resisted arrest, according to witnesses.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13908 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:03 am to
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A guy picks up a BB gun in Walmart and gets shot in the store? That's justified?



Eh man, the first sentence tells you all you need to know.

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Two police officers responded to a 911 call about a man waving a gun at customers inside a Walmart store. According the Beavercreek police department, 22-year-old John Crawford disregarded officers' orders to disarm before being fatally shot in the chest. Crawford's gun turned out to be a .177 calibre BB rifle that he'd picked up from a store shelf.


Dude was "waving" (Whatever that means) the gun in the store long enough that someone called 911, he then kept doing whatever he was doing long enough for the cops to be dispatched, arrive on scene, and walk to the back corner of the store where the BB Guns are, and then didn't disarm when he was told to.

You almost have to assume someone said something before the cops got there and then he refused to put the thing down when the cops arrived?

Dunno about that one, man. I'd love to see the video.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:03 am to
Any cliffs for today's updates?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:05 am to
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Any cliffs for today's updates?


Jake Tapper is a douche.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52569 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:06 am to
Outsiders causing most of the problems, Johnson seems to be screwing the pooch, cops may have up to 12 witnesses backing up what the cop said, Grand Jury about to convene.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:06 am to
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Did you read the others?

A guy picks up a BB gun in Walmart and gets shot in the store? That's justified?


Still waiting on your other cases that are similar.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:07 am to
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Any cliffs for today's updates?




Jake Tapper is a douche.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:07 am to
Trayvon and his mom don't have the same last name?

Color me shocked
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36339 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:12 am to
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the808bass


You have issues. I really want to know what happened for you to have this delusional view of LEO.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85136 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:12 am to
Flipped over to Fox to see what they were saying.... Geraldo is on whatever the show is and said "I have no doubt he will be indicted and then an all white jury will find him innocent, just as they let OJ Simpson off on racist terms"
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