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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

We do know that there was a 7th bullet that was shot into the interior of the car that was fired from inside the car. No cop would shoot his own car without a struggle.


Where did you see this? All I have heard is that the first shot came from within the car. Didn't know for certainty that it was fired INTO the car.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15003 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:25 pm to
Don't get me wrong, Jennings is changing, because of people moving out, but it's not that bad.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:26 pm to
Hypothetically:

What happens if Police Officer is on vacation and a Bull shark gets him. Do they try to tarnish his image?? Sacrifice him since he's gone?

People still protest?

Great Shark week show next year. Bull Shark given award.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:26 pm to
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Anonymous

I used to like anonymous but they have gotten so far into hating any police force they ignore facts and have taken Brown's side already
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Don't get me wrong, Jennings is changing, because of people moving out, but it's not that bad.


Dude, overall, you might be right. But right now, with it's proximity, there will be spill over from Ferguson after the cops send everyone running. At least that's been the pattern the last 2 nights.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15003 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:29 pm to
He's got guys in there at 7am, they are fine.

Just stay clear and pay attention. shite, my buddy had his car stolen while he ran in to get a pizza in wildwood by a POS. Crime can find you any where!
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30179 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:29 pm to
Is CNN going to bill the Brown family attorneys for all this spin?

CNN is just reaching to new depths. Didnt think they would go "Full MSNBC" like they have been doing.

A shame.
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
12347 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:30 pm to
CNN is just spinning this whole thing to its the police fault.. They fail to read the facts and reports unbiased
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30179 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:30 pm to
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Just stay clear and pay attention. shite, my buddy had his car stolen while he ran in to get a pizza in wildwood by a POS. Crime can find you any where!


I dont think reedus or I have said jennings was "bad". The reality is Jennings has had a lot of spillover violence related to Ferguson violence and riots.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:31 pm to
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Struggle over gun means shoot to kill. no? No. Either deadly force is justified or it isn't. There is no "shoot to do anything else" - wound, scare, etc. For cops - unless I'm mistaken - either deadly force is justified or it isn't. If it isn't, he's limited to LTL means, i.e. fisticuffs, baton, spray, taser.


If someone tries to disarm me it becomes a deadly force situation.


CNN has a woman on saying the officer walking up and shooting MB in the head twice and should be in jail. Also said MB was not a violent person and some times youths make mistakes. Blacks are being killed in large numbers in Mo and nothing is being done. And the police could have put 2 officers at the 250 buildings there and it would prevent looting but instead they allowed it to happen to paint an ugly picture.

It looks terrible on the news agency to even interview such delusional people
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 1:33 pm
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15003 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:32 pm to
People locally are pissed at National News and their race baiting and for fanning the flames and on some occasions pouring a shite load of gas on the flames.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

The dude said he was shot in the back. You are speculating that he is wrong but justifiably wrong so it doesn't conflict with the finding he is wrong?

You said no one said he was shot in the back. Except this guy.... But I understand why he could be wrong. this I am going to argue he never said it. Do I have that right?


The point I was unsuccessfully trying to make is that the witness statements have all been consistent and align with the autopsy results.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:32 pm to
Well hell now they are saying he was actually shot 6 times. WTF, CNN?
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:33 pm to
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CNN is just reaching to new depths.


ABC news last night was much worse than normal last night too.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6067 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

have all been consistent and align with the autopsy results.



So he was shot in the back running away?
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30179 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

People locally are pissed at National News and their race baiting and for fanning the flames and on some occasions pouring a shite load of gas on the flames.


I thought the local news has been ok so far. Channel 4 has really run with the early narrative. 5 and 2 have been pretty even keeled outside 5's terrible decision to show the address and a picture of the house of the officer. That was just idiotic.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15003 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Sources close to the investigation say the person calling the Dana Loecsh show to describe what happened leading to brown shooting is accurate


more inside, so called info
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84436 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:36 pm to
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If someone tries to disarm me it becomes a deadly force situation


Agreed, but what are you trained to do in order to prevent that? Would you drive up to a 6'4" 290+ lb man to where he is close enough to reach in your squad car and try to disarm you?

I'm not excusing Brown's behavior (if that is what he did). I just want to better understand what happened and what went wrong.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:36 pm to
maybe
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30179 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

The point I was unsuccessfully trying to make is that the witness statements have all been consistent and align with the autopsy results.


Seriously? The autopsy, at the very least, calls into question parts of the witness statements. Saying they align is a reach. The autopsy asks many questions and the accounts of the first two to come forward are part of that.
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