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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:28 am to
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Well when they arrest journalists and reporters and other people filming and reporting on it, aren't they also perpetuating chaos?




it takes chaos to bring out an army of cops. That chaos brings out journalists and reporters.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128862 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:28 am to
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LINK / Why do you keep trying to paint a narrative that black people don't care about black on black crime?

They liked someone else posting that shite on Facebook and thought it was profound and can't face that it's a philosophically indefensible argument.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:31 am to
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before the race card is played.

Okay. Underwhelmed, but okay.

Protests are usually aimed at power structure. Not the hoodrat down the street selling crack. To whom would the black community protest black on black crime?

Additionally, if an unarmed white kid is shot by police and it seems like a questionable shooting, can whites not protest because they have never sufficiently addressed the issue of white on white crime?
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:32 am to
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/ Why do you keep trying to paint a narrative that black people don't care about black on black crime?


Because it's so small in comparison in the black community it hasn't come close to the same scale. Let me guess, you posted the same link to the article from earlier that took months to organize and plan and still had no where near the support that this or TM case got. If it's so important, why are these people showing up and protesting and crying foul within hours of a crime when a crime is committed with a black suspect? Take your time... I'll wait.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:33 am to
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can't face that it's a philosophically indefensible argument.
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12505 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:34 am to
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Langston
I like you. Please stay.
Posted by cacspertheghost
Member since Aug 2014
106 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:34 am to
You're asking why people are protesting a crime when the victim is black? When else are they supposed to protest?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:35 am to
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They liked someone else posting that shite on Facebook
what does this mean?

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thought it was profound and can't face that it's a philosophically indefensible argument.

we are talking about the outrage,looting,vitriol,chaos that is happening right now because of this incident. Not marches,parades,vigils that black on black killings seem to create from time to time.

You two are saying basically that the Million Man March =/<> Rioting,looting that is going on in Missouri
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:35 am to
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Protests are usually aimed at power structure. Not the hoodrat down the street selling crack. To whom would the black community protest black on black crime?


Not buying this. So either there are no powerful blacks or they are all just saints I guess.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
7131 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:36 am to
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Protesters have families, too.

If they have families, who's watching them? Probably the beginning of the whole issue. Parents not being parents, caring more about the things they perceive and not the things that are.
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If you're scared to be a police officer, quit.

You have obviously never served anyone except yourself and criminals. There is not a person in uniform who does not understand when they get dressed before their shift that they may not come home. Human nature is to self preserve. You are asking for robot sir, go read your science fiction/fantasy, because that is where you are living.
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Mistakes and systematic denial of rights are two different things.

"Protesting" in the streets in the middle of the night where there are reports of crime and vandalism is not a civil form of protest. It is virtually impossible to separate the lawful from the unlawful when the lawful protect the unlawful. At which point then is the "innocent protester being denied his right of protest" harboring criminal activity and is therefor a criminal him/herself?
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:36 am to
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You're asking why people are protesting a crime when the victim is black? When else are they supposed to protest


Not even close to what I asked. Try rereading it
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:36 am to
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I like you. Please stay
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:36 am to
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showing up and protesting and crying foul within hours of a crime when a crime is committed with a black suspect? Take your time... I'll wait.

and black people driving in from other cities just like in Jena,and Florida and now Missouri.

It's glaringly obvious who is making this racial
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17287 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:37 am to
This story will not go away... neither will the protesters...
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128862 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:37 am to
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we are talking about the outrage,looting,vitriol,chaos that is happening right now because of this incident. Not marches,parades,vigils that black on black killings seem to create from time to time.


I don't think I understand your argument then. If you're solely addressing the looting/criminal actions, then I'm not sure what your point is. "Looting isn't justified by white on black violence?" Super. I agree.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
7131 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:38 am to
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Protests are usually aimed at power structure. Not the hoodrat down the street selling crack. To whom would the black community protest black on black crime?

In front of city hall, DURING THE DAYTIME, like ordinary, law-abiding citizens.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:40 am to
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I don't think I understand your argument then. If you're solely addressing the looting/criminal actions, then I'm not sure what your point is. "Looting isn't justified by white on black violence?" Super. I agree.


what about the black people driving in from other cities to join in this so called protest?

That post with the link earlier.Did any of those videos include people from outside the local city joining in the protests/marches like they are doing in Missouri now? Like in Florida? Jena?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128862 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:42 am to
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If they have families, who's watching them? Probably the beginning of the whole issue. Parents not being parents, caring more about the things they perceive and not the things that are.

Good. Let's tease this out a bit. I'll bet I can get you to "racial insensitivity" in 4 more posts or less.
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You have obviously never served anyone except yourself and criminals.

And that's what you get for assuming. You're focused, like most cops, on an us/them mentality. And further you decide who is an "us" and "them" based upon haphazard guesses and presuppositions. And it is one of the fundamental changes that has to be made in our policing.

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At what point
Sounds like you need some training on this if you can't answer it. I'd contact the appropriate person at your department for instruction.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134681 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:42 am to
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And yet we're all quick to say "black on black" like a dyslexic member of ACDC with Tourette's


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128862 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:43 am to
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In front of city hall, DURING THE DAYTIME, like ordinary, law-abiding citizens.

City hall is causing black on black crime? I wouldn't go that far, but if you're into conspiracies have at it.
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