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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:58 am to bountyhunter
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:58 am to bountyhunter
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A certain contingent of people living in that situation want chaos and disorder, it gives them a self-imposed right to commit crime and perpetuate the situation. I don't blame people trying to keep the chaos quarantined to one area. Do innocent people get caught in the middle? Absolutely. But criminals are criminals, I don't care about the semantics or the cause.
Not caring about the semantics like Constitutional rights is an issue. You don't get to arrest people without PC because of "a certain contingent of people" or "quarantining chaos." That's ridiculous. That's making criminals out of non-criminals because of criminals?
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:58 am to Topwater Trout
You want an overturned food truck?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:59 am to Wtodd
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We are looking for some fraternity brothers; interested?
I'm a little old for that. Thanks, though!
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:59 am to cacspertheghost
quote:NOBODY IS SAYING BLACKS DON'T CARE.
And black don't care about other murders is untrue
We're saying blacks don't protest ,loot and riot when they supposedly "care" about black on black crime.
They do a whole lot more "caring" when it's a perceived injustice perpetrated by a white.
I'm sure you won't agree though.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:01 am to cacspertheghost
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I admit that source is biased I apologize And black don't care about other murders is untrue LINK /
I agree that the "black on black crime" argument rings a little hollow for me. The only place I think it applies is to people like Sharpton. As far as the local communities, they do have people dealing with these issues on a daily basis and protesting and strategizing and intervening trying to stop it.
If there's anyone who cares less about black on black crime than black people, it's white people.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:02 am to the808bass
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I'm a little old for that. Thanks, though!
I should have specified; was asking Scruffy cause he seemed interested. Maybe LSU & Mizzou can have mutual gheyterities
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:03 am to reedus23
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No question. Cops are acting with impunity. People are getting more and more pissed and lashing back with more impunity.
Last night, you have a complete show of force blocking off the street. One guy throws a bottle and the cops unload on the other 99% of the crowd. Now tell me what happens when there is one crazy lunatic from Los Angeles that decides that that police line is an easy target and that one murderer starts shooting the cops holding their line. Money says we see people murdered by the dozens in response, just gunned down.
This is more of what I was getting at with my post. I know this particular incident seems to have crested and on its way down, but what happens the next time this happens (because we all know it will). Maybe not necessarily somebody being killed by police, but the overstepping or perceived overstepping by police (Nevada rancher stuff).
Would it be L.A. riots scale? Larger?
That article posted on page 93 from the Aussie news paper was very telling in how far we have declined in regards to the military police.
It seems to me that people are starting to have enough of it and will begin to push back.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:03 am to the808bass
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they do have people dealing with these issues on a daily basis and protesting and strategizing and intervening trying to stop it.
link to daily protests by blacks about black on black crime?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:05 am to Festus
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link to daily protests by blacks about black on black crime?
I'm not sure you know how English works. Reread and repost. Thanks!
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:06 am to the808bass
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I agree that the "black on black crime" argument rings a little hollow for me. The only place I think it applies is to people like Sharpton. As far as the local communities, they do have people dealing with these issues on a daily basis and protesting and strategizing and intervening trying to stop it.
If there's anyone who cares less about black on black crime than black people, it's white people.
I agree with you.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:07 am to cacspertheghost
TheAnonMessage @TheAnonMessage
We have video of Mike Brown's body being shoved into the back of a PD SUV. No EMS was on the scene at all as we first thought. #Ferguson9:45 AM - 14 Aug 2014
TheAnonMessage @TheAnonMessage
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#Anonymous #Ferguson8:15 AM - 14 Aug 2014
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:08 am to cacspertheghost
quote:go figure you'd agree with a completely baseless post,ridden with no links/data/facts to support.
I agree with you.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:09 am to the808bass
Yeah, that's what I figured. Thanks!
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:09 am to PuntBamaPunt
quote:ohh noes,big bad police might have actually cared enough to try to get the dude to a hospital by any means necessary before EMS arrived.
We have video of Mike Brown's body being shoved into the back of a PD SUV.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:10 am to the808bass
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Not caring about the semantics like Constitutional rights is an issue.
There's a major difference between lawful protest and anarchy. Causing major damage to private property and public infrastructure is not acceptable, I don't care if you are reading the Constitution of the U.S., Britain, Nazi Germany, or Hammurabi's Code.
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You don't get to arrest people without PC because of "a certain contingent of people" or "quarantining chaos."
As far as the actions of the police, it does appear to be abysmal. But all police departments are short-staffed, and you are putting men with families on the brink of chaos and expecting them not to flinch. Mistakes will be made as long as there is chaos. My point is, who is perpetuating the chaos? I'm sure they're lawful people.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 9:13 am
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:12 am to meauxjeaux2
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ohh noes,big bad police might have actually cared enough to try to get the dude to a hospital by any means necessary before EMS arrived
Doesn't line up with the video... The body is clearly in the middle of the street when his uncle runs up to him and the cop stops him. It is in the same place with a white sheet over him a little later on. They didn't try to rush him to the hospital.
I don't think this video they are citing even exists.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:13 am to Festus
quote:FWIW, I was sure you couldn't reread my sentence for comprehension. Back atcha!
Yeah, that's what I figured. Thanks!
"Daily" in my post was an adverb which modified the participial phrase "dealing with." The words "protesting," "intervening" and "strategizing" do not have an adverb of frequency modifying them. You're welcome. :themoreyouknow:
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 9:13 am
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:13 am to Langston
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The ones that turned this into race on day one are the ones who screwed up the chance to expose the real issue here.
Not sure if you were talking about posters or those actually involved in the case, but I agree particularly about the Browns and their supporters. Is there a race issue involved? Maybe. Maybe not. But they missed the opportunity at the outset to address the bigger issue involved. Bringing Sharpton on board was a mistake. Had they brought in, at least with Sharpton if not on his own, some white police brutality expert they could have had a much more united front. Posing it as an issue of police abuse of power as opposed to white cop kills black kid would have served not only themselves better but the bigger issue as well.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:13 am to the808bass
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This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:14 am to Lsut81
quote:didn't watch any videos. Wonder if they do indeed have one if they don't immediately try to get him in the suv then realize he's already dead and pull him out and put sheet over him?
Doesn't line up with the video... The body is clearly in the middle of the street when his uncle runs up to him and the cop stops him. It is in the same place with a white sheet over him a little later on. They didn't try to rush him to the hospital.
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