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re: St. Louis Catholic High School to move to South Lake Charles.

Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:37 pm to
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Like the ghettos, Juvenile Detention Facility and section 8 housing you have to drive by to get to Morgan Field


Well, most of their enrollees live south, so no, they won't be driving through all of that to get to Morgan Field.
Posted by Statestreet
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:43 pm to
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Just a hunch, but is there a football stadium involved in the future St. Louis campus?

Otherwise, I don't see why a cow pasture is a more appealing location than the historic downtown campus.




Yes they want a stadium, and they are delusional. They cannot even afford a stadium let alone take care of one year after year. The diocese is broke after so many properties being destroyed by the hurricanes and they want to go buy MORE property, with more maintenance, much more expense to build, very little if any support of the alumni or community, and to top it off FEMA will likely not give them all of the money that they have their hand out for. FEMA will likely not deem the school 51% damaged therefore the money will not be there to relocate.

It's a cluster-F. They are wasting time, money and dignity on this charade.
Posted by zsav77
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:51 pm to
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Calcasieu parish school board did a shite job


That’s pretty much with anything they do. You would be hard pressed to find a more useless bunch of incompetent fricks.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 3:55 pm
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:51 pm to
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Yes they want a stadium, and they are delusional. They cannot even afford a stadium let alone take care of one year after year. The diocese is broke after so many properties being destroyed by the hurricanes and they want to go buy MORE property, with more maintenance, much more expense to build, very little if any support of the alumni or community, and to top it off FEMA will likely not give them all of the money that they have their hand out for. FEMA will likely not deem the school 51% damaged therefore the money will not be there to relocate.

It's a cluster-F. They are wasting time, money and dignity on this charade.


plenty of support. Most of the peopel bitching dont even donate to the school and just own land near the school. Thats the only reason they care.

and yea they cant afford a stadium right now but with a capital campaign in a couple years they will be able to.

close to 70% of students play some kind of sport, it needs to be a priorty

stem classes needs to be a priorty because they are falling behing barbe fast

yea the diocese is broke, but the school will be just fine.

It hurts me being I am building near the port, but overall its the right thing for the students. Seems the adults are the ones that are pitching fits
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:52 pm to
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Like the ghettos, Juvenile Detention Facility and section 8 housing you have to drive by to get to Morgan Field, which will soon be section 8 housing?


huh? Are you sure you know where morganfield is?

you either drive down mcneese or interstate to 14. sure the west side of 14 is bad but you arent really driving through it.
Posted by Statestreet
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:57 pm to
The worst parts or "ghettos" of LC on off of 5th near E. McNeese... not far away from MorganField. The Juevy Detention hall is less than a mile from the proposed campus.

Tell me about these ghettos when you drive to Bank Street that you pass through?
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:01 pm to
Have you met the EBR Parish School Board?
Posted by Statestreet
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:10 pm to
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plenty of support. Most of the peopel bitching dont even donate to the school and just own land near the school. Thats the only reason they care.


Very uninformed statement and not true. Most of the people upset are alumni, parents of students, many of the students and some big long time supporters of the school.

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close to 70% of students play some kind of sport, it needs to be a priorty


So at least you are being honest, the move is mostly about the sports. Why would you need a campus 3 times larger than Catholic High or Jesuit unless it is about sports. Those schools do pretty damn well in sports with fewer acres than St. Louis has now.

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stem classes needs to be a priorty because they are falling behing barbe fast


Don't need 37 acres for that.
Posted by BallsEleven
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:15 pm to
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FEMA will likely not deem the school 51% damaged therefore the money will not be there to relocate.


Have you seen the school?
Posted by Statestreet
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:21 pm to
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Have you seen the school?


yes, have you seen TH Watkins? Lost 80% of the roof, still not 51% damaged.

St. Louis may have a couple of buildings that reach the 51%, but the others that are not damaged 51% will not be totaled and will not receive the full amount to replace those buildings or equivalent on a new location.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:34 pm to
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Don't need 37 acres for that.



No but you do need new buildings because the existing were shite before the storm and lack the infrastructure to support stem labs

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So at least you are being honest, the move is mostly about the sports. Why would you need a campus 3 times larger than Catholic High or Jesuit unless it is about sports. Those schools do pretty damn well in sports with fewer acres than St. Louis has now.


Yep but st Louis isn't catholic and Jesuit and already has big parking issues even without many sports facilities and without a larger school.

I'm on the keep it on bank street Facebook group, most have hardly anything to do with the school and only want to keep it downtown for tradition which is a dumbass reason to keep something.

I dunno if it will rebuilt or not but it's not a bad decision.

As far the cpsb comment goes...there are mutiple very successful people on that board. More successful than 99% of this board, so I wouldn't call them incompetent. There are some on there like that, but the good school districts have good members.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:38 pm to
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The worst parts or "ghettos" of LC on off of 5th near E. McNeese... not far away from MorganField. The Juevy Detention hall is less than a mile from the proposed campus.
and you don't drive through those going to MF.

And yea the jury center is a mile by a crow flies.

And there are terrible parts by bank st. I lived on bank st 12 years ago and my truck go broken into almost weekly.
Posted by Statestreet
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:45 pm to
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I'm on the keep it on bank street Facebook group, most have hardly anything to do with the school


Again, not true. Most are alumni or parents of students.

One thing for sure is that this has been handled about as poorly as can be by the Board of Pastors, the advisory council and the Task Force. It's been a clown show.

If this was really for the students, as you stated, we should be focused on getting those kids back in their class rooms and not dragging this charade out because a handful want an on campus football stadium. At this rate a school will not be built for 4-5 years, if it even happens at all.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 4:46 pm
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:46 pm to
Hers my take on cpsb, asking for a bind proposal while allowing the out of zone kids to run rough shod with zero accountability is Bull shite. Board is a bunch of pussies, you get expelled it means find another school not come back in two weeks. All school boards are top heavy and the south LC tax payers know it.
SLC needs a drawing card to survive and athletics will start the movement. Next they need to move their academics up to what barbe has and they will have the package to draw parish wide. I lol at friends who say SLC is the best school in cal perish.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 8:11 pm to
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Again, not true. Most are alumni or parents of students.


Most I see are alumni that there kids are long gone or are sending their kids to other places.

I'm not for or against the move. I just think tradition is a retarded reason to keep something in one place. It's akin to doing something the same way because that's the way its always been done.

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One thing for sure is that this has been handled about as poorly as can be by the Board of Pastors, the advisory council and the Task Force. It's been a clown show.


This we can agree on. The original advisory council was made up of some great people, but I think they were given info that steered towards the move. It was handled like pretty much everything in the catholic church lately...a shite show

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If this was really for the students, as you stated, we should be focused on getting those kids back in their class rooms and not dragging this charade out because a handful want an on campus football stadium. At this rate a school will not be built for 4-5 years, if it even happens at all.


I agree as there is a very good chance my kids will go there. I do know if they do not improve the academics to be inclined with barbe for ap kids, my kids won't go there.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 8:21 pm to
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Hers my take on cpsb, asking for a bind proposal while allowing the out of zone kids to run rough shod with zero accountability is Bull shite. Board is a bunch of pussies, you get expelled it means find another school not come back in two weeks. All school boards are top heavy and the south LC tax payers know it.


Unfortunately many times they are outvoted by the same members that are over terrible districts.

But this we can agree upon 100%.

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SLC needs a drawing card to survive and athletics will start the movement. Next they need to move their academics up to what barbe has and they will have the package to draw parish wide. I lol at friends who say SLC is the best school in cal perish.




I agree, but slc is the best school in Calc, Cameron, Beauregard, Jeff Davis hell all the way to Laffy and up all the way to Shreveport its the best other than the math and science school. That's as a school overall. The problem with slc is they do not cater to the hire end at all. Average student....going to do much better and have much better test scores than the average student at barbe.

The college graduation rates reflect that. The test scores also reflect Barbe's best, on average, are much better than SLC. Top 25 kids at barbe usually have higher test scores and have had a much better opportunity at taking advanced courses, especially in stem.

That's where slc is lacking.

SLC athletics, it's an important part of the school with way over half of the student body participating in one sport. The lady basketball team won state tonight. But the focus has to be on improving academics.

Honestly for selfish reasons I would like the school to stay downtown. Closer to where I am. But I don't think its the best move in the long run for the school or future students. Hopefully in 4 years the new school is complete either way so I have a choice between barbe and slc. If my kids weren't gifted kids It wouldn't be a choice, they would be slc no matter what.

I personally feel best plan is move slc, do a capital campaign and build a middle school on the current location. A middle school that the 3 main schools in lc feed into so the elementary schools can add pre-k3 and add a class to each grade. I think this would be best for SLC in the long run as I think it would cut down on the amount that leave and go to barbe. Between that and improving AP offerings, it would go a long ways.
Posted by BallsEleven
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 8:21 pm to
Let’s take a break from the debating and take a moment to honor our past:

Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:19 pm to
Is that at Lock park?
Posted by Statestreet
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 5:40 am to
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Most I see are alumni that there kids are long gone or are sending their kids to other places.




Wrong again. Sure there are some with kids long gone, or alumni who live out of town, but majority have school aged kids either at slc, maybe going to slc or just finished slc. Regardless of that one of the largest gifts ever gifted to SLC just came from a donor who never had a kid go through school. His family is livid on the discussion to move. You want to dismiss them too?

The original advisory council had a couple of good people but NONE were alumni. That’s pretty pathetic and myopic.


Academics along with all the facilities can be improved more on Bank St. and it can be done with a lot less money and quicker. What the school needs is new leadership, because building a new football stadium does not guarantee a decent football team and it certainly doesn’t do anything for academics (except take away money to retain the best teachers and coaches).



Posted by Stexas
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 6:34 am to
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The original advisory council had a couple of good people but NONE were alumni.


I know this to be false. Several Alumni are on the council including priests.
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