re: St Louis 1904

Jesus Christ. We need some hardcore Rankians to take back history. Between the dumbshit conspiracy theorists and the even dumber SJW revisionists, it is just embarassing.

I wouldn't say that.

The idea to present things in phases without an exact 'theory' has a bit to do with knowing how people take things.

And for me, it was nice to see some of these buildings (not just from worlds fairs) free from any predetermined direction.

It ALSO has to do with the fact t I think it's pretty arrogant to have the answers/theory when there's so many questions, especially on a topic this massive in scope.

As for your questions: I think you're pretty uniformed on some key things, which I know isn't what you want to hear. That's not really an opinion, it's simply impossible to ask some of the things you asked if you were more informed.

If you care to stick around we can work on some of that together, as I'm always learning as well.

Sounds to me like you can't be fully open minded to history being falsified because you weren't there, and no one living today was there -- which in a way is reasonable.

Hang out when these threads pop up, or don't.

But if you do, it'd be great if you held back from filling in blanks on my behalf.

That's great.

But you filled in some massive gaps and purposely behaved condescending with the aim of derailing and framing my intentions.

You can think you're just some swell guy with genuine interest if you need to validate yourself.

And pardon my stereotyping, but I question the conscious alertness of people who write in big blocks of text without separating thoughts.

You're right, Bob.

You weren't condescending and very eager to lift the veil to file this under the immediately dismissible taboo genre: conspiracy, which you knew would result in other posters piling on negatively.

I said what I intended to do in a previous thread to the same people who asked me again in this thread.

I had hoped WE as a group could check some things out.

Looks like insecure people like yourself enjoy shitting on things too much for that to happen as it was intended.

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fisticuffs at America's Drive-Inn.

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Ain’t nothin wrong with Sonic, baw. Been thinking about importing the Sonic culture to the Midwest.

Bob

If there's any projecting happening here it's on your end.

I wanted to post pics and see the reaction, as I think it's generally a surprise for most to see these buildings.

As we moved a long I wanted to share city build-outs, and more non-worlds fair architecture as we eventually tied some things together.

I think that intention is pretty reasonable and not condescending in nature.

I did answer one of these guys in the last thread as to what my intention was - it was accepted in that thread.

You took the backtrace from 1 out of 35 images I've posted on this topic and used it to make a massive assumption that resulted in an extremely long post that reframed this entirely.

This was intended to be something that WE as a group checked out together without pigeon holing with predetermined theories that have attached stigmas.

I don't have an organized theory for the entire history of the world, that would be pretty unreasonable.

I have intrigue and interest in the concept of falsified history and hoped to approach it in a way that didn't paralyze the exercise.

*I've now given you way too much investment of my time. If you want to participate it would be appreciated if you not make grand assumptions and speak on my behalf - I think that's a reasonable request.

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I have found that most of the hardcore alternative history conspiracy theorists on the internet are Russians or people whose parents grew up in the Soviet Bloc but emmigrated to England after the fall of the Iron Curtain. They were educated in Soviet Schools where historical revision and purposefully erasing negative history was a fact of life. These are people who have emerged from a culture where they were lied to about EVERYTHING into a culture where everything can be questioned.

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Yeah, I went down an alternative timeline rabbit hole one night and it was hilarious (or scary) how much of it could be traced back to two soviet academics. They're not exactly mainstream in Russia, either, but it was consistent with some Russian mythology of being the true heirs of the Roman Empire and attempts to delegitimize Western European history.

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it was consistent with some Russian mythology of being the true heirs of the Roman Empire and attempts to delegitimize Western European history.

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They believe that there was this lost Empire called Tartary in modern day Eastern Russia which was a contemporary of the Roman Empire. Early maps show Tartary, display flags for it, mark locations of cities, but later maps delete it entirely. A lot of these conspiracy theories out of Russia revolve around the idea of this lost empire having been purposefully deleted from history and all remaining evidence of it wiped out systematically by the Soviets.

In reality, Tartary was the term used as a placeholder for the vast regions of central Asia and Siberia that westerners in the Renaissance and age of enlightenment knew existed, but had no contact with. The areas associated with Russia were the Russian Tartary. The areas associated with China were the Manchurian Tartary. The area controlled by the Mongols based around Crimea was known as Little Tartary. As these areas became more integrated into the Western World and their peoples and rulers more known, the term fell out of use as the peoples of those regions never referred to themselves as Tartars. It's similar to how the American government used to refer to wide swaths of the old West as "Indian Country" and all of the people there as Indians. The Indians had their own place names and their own names for their tribes. As those lands became more settled, they dropped the blanket term "Indian Country" and formed territories and states like "Kansas", "Nebraska", "Oklahoma", etc.

The phrase "Tartary" was eventually replaced by "Siberia" and "Central Asia", both terms coined in the 19th Century.

No one's interested in going on a "journey" with a condescending arse making vague allusions to the secrets of the world. Just post what you believe or shut the frick up.