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re: St. George LA denied incorporation by Court of Appeals
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:05 am to Damone
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:05 am to Damone
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This can't be correct, we were assured that with all of the donations and legwork incorporation was guaranteed!
It should have been and really never should have lost first case. You can’t account for corruption in politics much less in Louisiana or for the ignorance of the population voting Democrat especially in the Louisiana and other southern states. We see that with the mayor and saw that with the Better Together political farce and those making StG about race.
It obvious you realize city of BR can’t make it without continuing to take tax dollars from the outside or you can’t see beyond race in situations, or likely both.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 11:09 am
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:09 am to SixthAndBarone
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I voted yes for St George because of the way Baton Rouge tried to Frick them. But I have no admiration for the “organizers”.
I admire the organizers for taking their time and using their resources to better our community. They did not have to do this.
Did they get the best advice? No. It appears they just followed the Central blueprint.
We vote on amendments to the Constitution, school plans, road plans and all we see is an outline of what we are voting on. The full issue is available online or in the newspaper. It’s not on the voting machine.
How much of the plan needed to be on the actual petition? And wasn’t the petition approved before it hit the streets? It just seems to me to be a technicality and the judge was looking for one.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:11 am to Fat and Happy
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Like Gravy said, white folks just want to take their money and run with it.
Yep to put up a wall. And guess who's gonna provide the labor for that wall?
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:11 am to Supermoto Tiger
Mexico?
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:11 am to Cosmo
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What did they do wrong legally?
Attempted to logically spend their own tax dollars
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:12 am to doubleb
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It just seems to me to be a technicality and the judge was looking for one.
Precisely. No court wants to deal with the other arguments i.e, the tax and minority issues that the City of BR wants to bring up.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:14 am to TBoy
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It appears that the Petition for Incorporation did not comply with the law in that it did not provide any concrete plan as to how St. George would be able to provide necessary infrastructure. Apparently, taking a position that we will figure that out later when we start to take in cash isn't a lawful plan for incorporation.
Interesting to me at least, and I'm guessing at this as being true, is how the US, and more specifically to LA to a lesser degree, probably has thousands of incorporated areas that were formed prior to this legal requirement being created and have managed just fine for a hundred years or more.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 11:16 am
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:14 am to Dingeaux
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Why doesn't the city of Baton Rouge incorporate them into Baton Rouge?
I always found your city-parish government setup wacky.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:18 am to Wally Sparks
The model was used so that a white majority parish could control a black majority city. Now, it’s being used by a black majority city to control a white majority parish.
It is being used to cyphon money from the un incorporated areas to pay for city services while avoiding providing services to those unincorporated areas. St. George is essentially a tax colony in this system.
It is being used to cyphon money from the un incorporated areas to pay for city services while avoiding providing services to those unincorporated areas. St. George is essentially a tax colony in this system.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:18 am to Wally Sparks
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I always found your city-parish government setup wacky.
Consolidated government only makes sense when the relevant city and parish are coextensive (i.e., Lafayette and Orleans)
The system makes no sense for Baton Rouge, where over half the parish population does not live in the City of Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 11:19 am
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:19 am to Joshjrn
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The conclusion already posted here is the very short version, but if you want a bit more, jump to the end of page 23 and read from there. The punch line of what fricked them is that the statute was specifically changed in 1984 to require specificity in the plan included in the petition with the expressed purpose of getting rid of glittering generalities to take advantage of voters. Agree or disagree regarding whether the statute sets a reasonable expectation, but the law seems fairly straightforward on that point.
So since 1984 what did other incorporations do? Exactly what did they do to comply with the law? SG should have done thst.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:21 am to Kramer26
Keep appealing until you have exhausted everything
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:23 am to doubleb
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Exactly what did they do to comply with the law? SG should have done that.
From what I understand, that's what they did in following Central's blueprint. But I suppose this issue was not challenged during that process?
Still seems incredible to me that StG's organizers and counsel did not make absolute sure that the petition was compliant.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:26 am to KamaCausey_LSU
If this is true, how did central do it and how did it get to the ballot.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:27 am to Indefatigable
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The system makes no sense for Baton Rouge, where over half the parish population does not live in the City of Baton Rouge.
2020 Census
BR 227,470
Parish 456,781
This means just over half the folks live outside of BR. 239,311
We have 12 council districts in the parish. I do not think we gave 6 council persons to represent us. That’s a problem.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:28 am to Indefatigable
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From what I understand, that's what they did in following Central's blueprint. But I suppose this issue was not challenged during that process? Still seems incredible to me that StG's organizers and counsel did not make absolute sure that the petition was compliant.
They must have moved the goal post. The stakes are much higher this time.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:30 am to Kramer26
I don’t understand how they can stop this. It was voted on and passed. It’s more proof that your vote means nothing
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:31 am to Kramer26
NBR has to depend/leech on/off of SBR for survival. Not enough tax payers or businesses to support themselves.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:36 am to Joshjrn
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Agree or disagree regarding whether the statute sets a reasonable expectation, but the law seems fairly straightforward on that point.
You think the below wording is straightforward?
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4) A listing of the public services the municipal corporation proposes to render to the area and a plan for the provision of these services.
So even if you provide the list of services and a plan what’s to stop the judges from just saying the plan isn’t good enough, not precise enough or the figures don’t line up? And they’ll just be extremely vague about it offering no guidance as to what can be done to correct it in the future. It really is a frustrating process.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:43 am to Kramer26
Can St George file incorporation again in the future?
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