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re: Spoke to a plumber today who gave good advice on faucets for the freeze

Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:44 pm to
You just have to leave the outside spigots dripping to avoid a freeze. The only reason u would run the hot is if u had a shitty house off the ground or water pipes in the attic.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70789 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:48 pm to
And if my main supply splits off before the water heater to run some other dedicated cold stuff???

Stuff like this is stupid. EVERY pipe that isn't inside of an interior wall on a pier and beam house needs to have constant water flow. This isn't difficult.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

With slabs on grade, and copper tubing, you can have a problem and not know it.



The vast majority of homes here have basements. The problem area is when the sill leaks outside air in. It's more of a problem when the basement is finished as the cold air collects between the basement ceiling and the floor above.

Had a place where the idiot plumber ran the kitchen sink lines right along the sill for several feet. When it would get below zero for a couple days they would freeze up so I added a couple vents to the ceiling under the lines to allow warm air into the closed space to solve the problem.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71030 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:53 pm to
I re-plumbed our house six or seven years ago and went with all pex, but for drain lines. I'll never use anything else.

I will still drip faucets and, of course, I cover/wrap hydrants.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

BuckyCheese


Damn dude, chill out. Go take a walk or something

You’ve been holed up in your basement for too many days.

I hope you don’t own a gun
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2358 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:59 pm to
I’m gonna wake up at 4am when it gets low 30s and run a sprinkler so hopefully it freezes over in a few hours when it’s 28degrees and the kids can see the icecapades in the backyard
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

tgrbaitn08



I'm cool as a cucumber.

I just don't have patience for known idiots like lunchbox and yourself.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

I just don't have patience for known idiots like lunchbox and yourself.


Why are you so concerned with what happens in the Deep South of Louisiana when you live in the deep North of the Midwest?

Let the people down here do what we do and you do what you do.

This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 4:07 pm
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:11 pm to
I've been through -10 degree weather and never run a single faucet. Never had a problem.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88542 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:12 pm to
I'm the known idiot because you can't explain the ambient temp difference

Condescending douchebag
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16562 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:15 pm to
How exactly would you turn on the hot water in a shower that has one leaver.... as it is turned on it starts at cold, middle ways is warm, and all the way to the right is hot?

To run hot water line you would have to run a far more than a drip.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14419 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Tell me about the difference in ambient temp between the air in the kitchen and the cabinet that is located in the kitchen. Then tell me with a straight face that difference is enough to have any effect on pipes freezing.

quote:

LNCHBOX

Squatting on a shitty take. Nothing new for you.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88542 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:17 pm to
So shitty not one of you can make an argument against it.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73019 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:23 pm to
I've been telling people similar. If you have a slab home you don't need to freak out. That said setting your furthest interior faucet to run minimal hot and cold won't hurt.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41598 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

How exactly would you turn on the hot water in a shower that has one leaver


Turn on the shower and let only cold water flow. Slightly warm it up and that means the HW is flowing too. A slight hw flow is all you need.
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
4821 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

I've posted this two or three times, but it bears repeating. Let the toilets run too. Leave the inlet valve slightly open and prop open the flush valve. That line will freeze just like the other ones will.

If anyone actually does this you better hope somebody doesn’t come along and clog your toilet.

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178933 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

There's absolutely no need to do this if your house is on a slab.



Do you just like being wrong?

I have seen several lines in attics freeze and flood homes. I did a large insurance repair on a home two years ago that survived Laura and Delta only to be flooded by a copper line in the attic bursting and draining both water heaters into the house.
This post was edited on 12/23/22 at 7:35 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178933 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

With slabs on grade, and copper tubing, you can have a problem and not know it.

Plumbers would loop the copper under the slab and at times they would come up on the outside edge of the exterior wall and not on the inside. The insulator installing the batt insulation would do his thing and the water line would be left outside of the batt insulation.

That line is subject to freezing. Keeping your cabinet door open could make a difference.




Yes just assuming because you are on a slab and have insulation that your lines aren't exposed is a little naive. It's a better safe than sorry scenario to at least drip a faucet even if you are on a slab and especially if you have a water heater in the attic as many modern homes do
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27893 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:09 pm to
What about natural gas lines outside near the meter?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178933 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

What about natural gas lines outside near the meter?



Open them a little then light a match and let it burn like a flare stack at a refinery that way the line stays warm
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