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re: Spoke to a plumber today who gave good advice on faucets for the freeze

Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:57 pm to
I've posted this two or three times, but it bears repeating. Let the toilets run too. Leave the inlet valve slightly open and prop open the flush valve. That line will freeze just like the other ones will.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:57 pm to
Tell me about the difference in ambient temp between the air in the kitchen and the cabinet that is located in the kitchen.

Then tell me with a straight face that difference is enough to have any effect on pipes freezing.
Posted by back9Tiger
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:58 pm to
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I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here? You're saying to expose water lines to the outside cold air?


Reading comprehension not your strong suit?
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:59 pm to
I run hot and cold full blast from every faucet.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:59 pm to
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Reading comprehension not your strong suit?


Looks like I read it perfectly, it's just a stupid old wives' tale
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:00 pm to
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Who is so dumb they run cold water to keep the pipes from freezing?


MSU Extention

This is a 40 second video from the MSU engineering department simply explaining why you run cold water and what faucet to run t from.

I swear, I never knew this was such a big issue.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:04 pm to
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Tell me about the difference in ambient temp between the air in the kitchen and the cabinet that is located in the kitchen.

Then tell me with a straight face that difference is enough to have any effect on pipes freezing.


In many houses it is a noticeable difference that doesn't require a thermometer.

Obviously this isn't universal, but does apply to many houses. Generally older ones.

Copper pipes conduct heat very well.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:06 pm to
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In many houses it is a noticeable difference that doesn't require a thermometer.

Obviously this isn't universal, but does apply to many houses. Generally older ones.

Copper pipes conduct heat very well.


Why would the age of the house have any effect on the temp difference between the inside of the cabinet and the room the cabinet is in? Last I checked kitchen cabinets aren't insulated, and if anything older cabinets are probably thicker and better t keeping cold out.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

This is a big reason to not run water all night.


Gonna be real shitty of we have to go under a boil water advisory.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:10 pm to
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Why would the age of the house have any effect on the temp difference between the inside of the cabinet and the room the cabinet is in? Last I checked kitchen cabinets aren't insulated, and if anything older cabinets are probably thicker and better t keeping cold out.


What do you think is better insulated and air tight; A house built in the last 20 years or one built 100 years ago?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:12 pm to
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What do you think is better insulated and air tight; A house built in the last 20 years or one built 100 years ago?




Irrelevant. Why can't you just answer my question instead of trying to duck the obvious hole in your claim?

I will gladly look at any data you have that shows the existence of a significant temperature difference between inside and outside of a cabinet that is in climate controlled air.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:14 pm to
I'm not ducking anything you stupid frick.

Let me guess. You think the pipes freeze in the cabinet itself, don't you.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:15 pm to
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I'm not ducking anything you stupid frick.

Let me guess. You think the pipes freeze in the cabinet itself, don't you.


Oh look, more ducking
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:19 pm to
This is you and every downvoter when asked to explain how your little tricks works logically

Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:20 pm to
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What do you think is better insulated and air tight; A house built in the last 20 years or one built 100 years ago?


With slabs on grade, and copper tubing, you can have a problem and not know it.

Plumbers would loop the copper under the slab and at times they would come up on the outside edge of the exterior wall and not on the inside. The insulator installing the batt insulation would do his thing and the water line would be left outside of the batt insulation.

That line is subject to freezing. Keeping your cabinet door open could make a difference.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:26 pm to
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This is you and every downvoter when asked to explain how your little tricks works logically


Scroll up a few and you will see your answer.

Oh yeah. You have already shown you have problems with reading comprehension.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:35 pm to
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Said cold water and hot water lines are separate but the cold feeds the hot. Said most people don't know you have to leave the HOT water running all night,


As said this is only to prevent your supply to your home from freezing. If you have supply lines to your faucet that are both hot and cold exposed to the elements or cold such as under a pier and beam or in an attic that gets freezing temps, then you would want to run BOTH lines.

For most of the gulf coast it really only gets cold from about 2am to 7 am. If most people ran their water 2-3 times a night they'd be fine. Run it at midnight, run it at 3-4 am, and then run it again when someone wakes up. The people that get frozen pipes usually just don't do shite.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:39 pm to
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Scroll up a few and you will see your answer.

This answer?

quote:

Keeping your cabinet door open could make a difference.

Yea, that really settles it
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Oh yeah. You have already shown you have problems with reading comprehension.


Open the drawer of the desk you're sitting at and tell me you feel a noticeable difference in the air temp. Be honest.
Posted by LSUJML
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:40 pm to
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In many houses it is a noticeable difference that doesn't require a thermometer.


We keep the door to the half bath closed & it’s a very noticeable difference in the winter
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