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Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:07 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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You can't make random qualifications in nature... they have what they have... humans are nothing without weapons, and the fact you think they need them, only proves the point that they are not natural apex predators
You're right. Seven billion of us rule the planet over every other animal on the fricking planet, but we'll just discount the fact that our brains and our ability to fashion tools are what allowed us dominion.
fricking idiot.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:08 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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You can't take away natural traits of an animal,
That's the point. The ability to create and use tools is a natural trait of humans. Not to mention our world's best ability to long distance run. Can't discount our ability to survive traumatic injury also.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:09 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
What about a Sperm Whale?
I mean, that thing is pretty bad arse and kills 100' squid and shite.
I mean, that thing is pretty bad arse and kills 100' squid and shite.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:10 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
quote:You are so stupid. We have intelligence, and an opposable thumb, which has allowed us to use tools and weapons that make us the ultimate apex predator. If we wanted to, we could make every animal in the OPs list extinct. Saying we arent number 1 is assinine
You can't make random qualifications in nature... they have what they have... humans are nothing without weapons, and the fact you think they need them, only proves the point that they are not natural apex predators
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:10 pm to Peazey
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Not to mention our world's best ability to long distance run
I don't know about all that
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:11 pm to OMLandshark
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Not an Apex Predator. Killed by Orcas regularly.
My top 5:
1) Human
2) Orca
3) Tiger
4) Lion
5) Eagle
6) Wolves
7) Polar Bear
8) Pelican
9) Saltwater Croc
10) Komodo Dragon
I like your list, however I disagree with a few things
Without bringing something extra to the fight, humans aren't close
I would switch Pelican with Falcon... Peregrine Falcons will frick up a Pelican... they do it all the time in California
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:11 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
Ahhh, the old "I realized my argument was dumb so I'll pretend I'm trolling" tactic.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:12 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
quote:The other animal has every opportunity to bring other things to the fight. They cant though, which is what makes us the apex......
Without bringing something extra to the fight, humans aren't close
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:12 pm to lsupride87
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Saying we arent number 1 is assinine
It's 2 different arguements.
Human is the apex in the real world, but if we're going solely off of natural physical traits, we're not even close
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:13 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:The ability to think, grab, and create arent a physical trait?
Human is the apex in the real world, but if we're going solely off of natural physical traits, we're not even close
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:15 pm to lsupride87
If you want to start a thread, saying who would win a fight with no outside weapons involved, go ahead. But within a thread about apex predators, you can not take away weapons
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:15 pm to saint amant steve
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I'll take my chances on land with a tiger
I legit laughed out loud reading this. You know you're in some shite when this seems like a valid alternative.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:16 pm to lsupride87
Depends, that all takes planning. Some other animals plan their attacks and use topography etc to their advantage
It depends if we're talking dropping a human and a bear into a cage without warning, or if the predators are allowed to plan, build, etc
It depends if we're talking dropping a human and a bear into a cage without warning, or if the predators are allowed to plan, build, etc
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:16 pm to lsupride87
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You are so stupid. We have intelligence, and an opposable thumb, which has allowed us to use tools and weapons that make us the ultimate apex predator. If we wanted to, we could make every animal in the OPs list extinct. Saying we arent number 1 is assinine
Sure, we could nuke every animal out of existence... but where humans exist with these animals, it's a much different story... Lions and Tigers kill humans all the time without "muh gunz"... only proving pound for pound that humans aren't Apex... its a FACT
And again, without any weapons, humans are useless
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:17 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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only proving pound for pound that humans aren't Apex... its a FACT
In one breath you say we can make them extinct, and in the other you say we arent Apex 
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:18 pm to lsupride87
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If you want to start a thread, saying who would win a fight with no outside weapons involved, go ahead. But within a thread about apex predators, you can not take away weapons
I'll give you my S&W and drop you into a pen with a Lion... who wins?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:19 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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I'll give you my S&W and drop you into a pen with a Lion... who wins?
This is a bad argument to make. A dude killed a grizzly with a 6" buck knife once, but I bet he'd tell you he was lucky
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:20 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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This is a bad argument to make. A dude killed a grizzly with a 6" buck knife once, but I bet he'd tell you he was lucky
With a weapon i'd give him a 50/50 shot... without, he's food
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:20 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
quote:Why are you dropping us into a pen? Drop us into a fire pit with a rope ladder instead. Adding qualifiers is dumb
I'll give you my S&W and drop you into a pen with a Lion... who wins?
If God came down, and said he has started a thread on his Godly tigerdroppings wondering who was Apex on earth, so we all need to see who can prove their #1 apex status, we would have the lion, tiger, orca, and whoever else wiped out in a week.
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