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Spinoff. The arbitrarieness of these generational labels

Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:18 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:18 am
People born in the forties and the early sixties are considered boomers and have very little in common with each other. Someone born in 1968 as the late in life baby of a WWII vet is Gen X, but their experience will be more akin to that of a boomer. Two kids in the same family born a couple of years apart can be in different generational groups, yet have more in common with one another than they do with the people in their own cohort. In all seriousness, I don't see much value to any of these labels.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:19 am to
sexist
racist
generalizationist
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:20 am to
Xyr dumb labels. Don't hir think?
Posted by Mr.Perfect
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:20 am to
It's just made up terms hoss. Who gives a crap
Posted by musick
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you really had to start a new thread for this?
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:23 am to
It's spinoff Friday, baw.
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:23 am to
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People born in the forties and the early sixties are considered boomers and have very little in common with each other. Someone born in 1968 as the late in life baby of a WWII vet is Gen X, but their experience will be more akin to that of a boomer. Two kids in the same family born a couple of years apart can be in different generational groups, yet have more in common with one another than they do with the people in their own cohort. In all seriousness, I don't see much value to any of these labels.


I agree wholeheartedly with your assertion.

Even though it doesn't adhere to the typical definition of 'generation' or the period/passage of time often associated when comparing one generation to the next (e.g. a time period of 18-24 years), I have always found eight year time spans to be a much better indicator of cultural and social values and trends possessed by a group of people.

As someone born in the early '90s, I find that I have very little in common with those born during the tail end of the decade or in the 21st century. Our interaction with technology alone makes for a very drastic difference in upbringing and social norms.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 10:31 am
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:26 am to
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As someone born in the early '90s, I find that I have very little in common with those born during the tail end of the decade or in the 21st century.


The biggest difference between very late 80s and early 90s children to those born after, is that the former can vividly remember NOT having internet or ubiquitous cell phone use. Hell, people who are 19 and younger have probably always had some kind of internet access.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 10:45 am
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:26 am to
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Posted by Breesus online on 8/28/15 at 10:20 am to Jim Rockford Xyr dumb labels. Don't hir think?



Shwi prefer schwi, schwoo, and schwifty, schwoo heteronormative cis-identifying shitlord! My triggers must be respected!
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:31 am to
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schwifty


Get schwifty!
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:33 am to
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assertion.

Even though it doesn't adhere to the definition of generation or the period of time often associated when comparing one generation to the next (e.g. a time period of 18-24 years), I have always found eight year time spans to be a much better indicator of cultural and social values and trends possessed by a group of people.

As someone born in the early '90s, I find that I have very little in common with those born during the tail end of the decade or in the 21st century. Our interaction with technology alone makes for a very drastic difference in upbringing and social norms


Recently I've seen more demographers classify Millennials/Y as between 1980 and 1995 or so. That seems more accurate.

I was born in '86, so I very clearly remember a time before internet and cell phones. Most of my neighborhood didn't have household internet until I was 13 or 14 years old, and no one had a personal cell until later in high school. Those random calls to girls' houses to talk to them were awesome; dads could still put the fear of God into a scrawny little dude like me. Also, 9/11 and the wars were defining events...I think some tend to forget that both wars were fought largely by Millennials. I can also remember bits and pieces of the first Gulf War.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:34 am to
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The biggest difference between very late 80s and early 90s children can vividly remember NOT having internet or ubiquitous cell phone use. Hell, people who are 19 and younger have probably always had some kind of internet access.


Yep. And it's even crazier to think about the growth of technology post-Y2K. Texting to most kids over 10 is a way of life today. Texting didn't really become a mainstream communication method until Katrina. That was the first time anyone really "needed" it. Before that it was just cool to be able to make a phone call from anywhere in the world on a cell phone. Then in 2007 Apple blew the doors off of the technology boom by introducing the iPhone. That alone made things like wifi and bluetooth advance at extremely rapid rates. It's even crazier to think about what will be out there today 10 years from now. It'll be very interesting to see how those generations turn out.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:35 am to
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quote: schwifty Get schwifty!




Take off schwoor pants and schwoor panties,
shite on the floor
Posted by High C
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:35 am to
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arbitrarieness


Is that a real word?
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:42 am to
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Two kids in the same family born a couple of years apart can be in different generational groups, yet have more in common with one another than they do with the people in their own cohort.


Meh, not really. Ever since the late 70's culture and societal trends move so quickly that every five years or less creates a new generational group with a new shared experience. Someone born in the late 80's might get a Myspace joke, while someone born in the early 90's would have to have Myspace explained to them for example.

Shared cultural experiences are what have defined every generation since the baby boomers (and their Woodstock). Things move so rapidly that generational divides are greater than they have ever been.

And that is just culture. Technology also moves so fast that it creates another device. Just because you kicked arse at Windows 98 doesn't mean you can completely navigate through a jailbreak on an iPhone. Social media and smartphones changed the game so much that shows that aren't that old like Friends or Seinfeld have plotlines that are just as dated as The Honeymooners to a modern audience. So many of George's problems could have been solved by an iPhone.

Then add on top of that the destruction of religion in the last 25 years. Now more people than ever identify as non-religious, and there is a huge generation divide within social issues that are tied to religion. A 40 year old man who is very religious, is against gay marriage and holds true to Southern Baptist teachings (like the not drinking or the women should be subservient to the men thing) might as well be separated by 100 years from an atheist liberal 30 year old who changed his Facebook profile to a rainbow a month ago.

The whole point of looking at generational divides is that leads to a breakdown in communication between generational groups because in reality all communication is simply shared symbology. Never before in human history has generational divides become so vast, and I think we see that reflected in our national politics.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:47 am to
I was born in 1982, does that make me a Gen Xer or a millenial or something in between?

I didn't use the internet until High School and wasn't on it everyday until college. I didn't join facebook until after college. That seems to have a bearing on one's Generation designation.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:54 am to
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1982


An on the fence X-er.
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