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Spinoff: engineers vs. PE's
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:14 pm
All the talk earlier about doctor vs dentist and recognition between the two sides reminds me of the old argument I haven't seen in a while.
Is someone who works in the oilfield or a refinery whose title is "engineer" actually an engineer?
How do professional engineers out there feel about the loose usage of the term engineer?
Is someone who works in the oilfield or a refinery whose title is "engineer" actually an engineer?
How do professional engineers out there feel about the loose usage of the term engineer?
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:16 pm to Road Tiger
quote:Fine with me, its just a title.
engineer
noun
1.
a person trained and skilled in the design, construction, and use of engines or machines, or in any of various branches of engineering :
a mechanical engineer; a civil engineer.
2.
a person who operates or is in charge of an engine.
3.
Also called locomotive engineer. Railroads. a person who operates or is in charge of a locomotive.
4.
a member of an army, navy, or air force specially trained in engineering work.
5.
a skillful manager:
a political engineer.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:16 pm to Road Tiger
And still, neither knows how to drive a goddamn train.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:17 pm to Road Tiger
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:17 pm to Road Tiger
Quality engineers as a title are the worst. Most don't even have an engineering degree.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:20 pm to Road Tiger
...waits for CharlesLSU
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:20 pm to Road Tiger
quote:
How do professional engineers out there feel about the loose usage of the term engineer?
I don't know how true this is, but when I was at Chrysler all the engineers there told me that all the PE's get stuck in the closet and have to work with the lawyers. They told me it was really no point in getting a PE unless you are a civil engineer.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:22 pm to Road Tiger
Some baw is gonna come in here citing criminal code and telling all the non-PE engineers they're going to the fricking slammer
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:23 pm to J Murdah
quote:
Fine with me, its just a title.
That's true, but a lot of jimmies get rustled on both sides. PE's have to go for at least a B.S. and work for 4 years as an intern to earn the right to legally call themselves an engineer.
And oil and gas guys get offended if you tell them they aren't a "true" engineer, because they went to a 18 or so month training program.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:23 pm to Road Tiger
quote:
PE
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:25 pm to Road Tiger
They gonna get so mad..... All dem P.E. folks 
.... Making shite salaries and the oil and gas folks bringing home the bacon.... 
ETA: some food for thought
.... Making shite salaries and the oil and gas folks bringing home the bacon.... ETA: some food for thought
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Based on 2010 survey findings from the National Society of Professional Engineers (NSPE), licensed engineers make an annual median salary of $99,000, while those with no license or professional certification earn $94,000 a year.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:25 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
quote:
They told me it was really no point in getting a PE unless you are a civil engineer.
That's true.
I guess for the sake of argument, I meant engineers with degrees vs. non degreed engineers
As in mechanical, chemical, the whole spectrum of engineering.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:27 pm to Dandy Lion
A PE is a professional engineer licensed in a specific jurisdiction to practice engineering. Basically, to design anything and place a seal on it, you have to be a PE
For those not familiar with what a PE actually is.
For those not familiar with what a PE actually is.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:28 pm to Road Tiger
I'm a sanitation engineer
Cro Acka, SE is how I sign my emails
Cro Acka, SE is how I sign my emails
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:28 pm to TexasTiger01
quote:
Based on 2010 survey findings from the National Society of Professional Engineers (NSPE), licensed engineers make an annual median salary of $99,000, while those with no license or professional certification earn $94,000 a year.
I mean only difference is they took two more test than me.
frick 'em I still ball!!!!!
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:31 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
quote:
They told me it was really no point in getting a PE unless you are a civil engineer.
Words from someone that didn't want to or couldn't pass the test
There's no reason not to become a PE imo
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:40 pm to Croacka
If you are considering whether or not getting a PE, you should be able to pass the test fairly easily...
Engineering has a lot less to do with accolades, networking, and credentials and more to do with thinking as effective, innovative, and efficient as possible.
I don't see many engineers getting into a tiff over titles and such non sense, there are plenty of other careers for those type of people.
Engineering has a lot less to do with accolades, networking, and credentials and more to do with thinking as effective, innovative, and efficient as possible.
I don't see many engineers getting into a tiff over titles and such non sense, there are plenty of other careers for those type of people.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:41 pm to Croacka
quote:
There's no reason not to become a PE IMO
Even though it's not always a requirement, it definitely puts you on top of the list when looking for a job. Also gets you a pay bump at most places.
I got my job without it (just graduated), but I'll be taking the PE as soon as I can.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:43 pm to TexasTiger01
quote:
licensed engineers make an annual median salary of $99,000, while those with no license or professional certification earn $94,000 a year.
Do you have a link? I have to imagine that this is PE's vs those that simply stuck with their FE, not 4 year majors vs. anyone with "engineer" in their job title.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:44 pm to THRILLHO
I'm pretty sure that's what it implies
I don't think anyone refers to those other occupations as engineers outside of titles at work
I don't think anyone refers to those other occupations as engineers outside of titles at work
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