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re: Spinoff: Is anyone here still opposed to marijuana legalization and if so why?

Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:53 am to
Posted by SlowEasyConfident
Member since Nov 2015
6650 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:53 am to
It's illegal because it a way to keep control of the people.. Big brother doesn't want the citizens asking questions
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30887 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:08 am to
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Ctiger, when I have marijuana I smoke on average once a week on the weekend. Sometimes I will go several months without smoking. You keep calling people addicts. Do you think I am an addict?


Yes, you are a drug addict. You are using a drug and you have failed at every permanent attempt to quit or worse, you are in denial and have zero desire to quit the drug abuse. Usually it is an eye opener to be called a drug addict to your face.

"Addiction is progressive and most of the time treatment is required to end the addiction. When a person has a drink, for example, they enjoy the flavor of the drink, the relaxing feeling they get when they drink it and they often have a drink in a social setting with friends and colleagues."

"Because they enjoy the experience, they want to repeat it and so they have another drink, or they go back to the same place and have a drink the next day. They are not necessarily addicted. People who take prescription pain medications, do not necessarily put themselves in jeopardy of developing an addiction."


"Addiction sets in when the person no longer has a choice to use the drug or not use the drug. They claim they can quit anytime they want, but the truth is they can’t quit and they keep using. They say “I’ll cut back,” but their tolerance to the drug is building and they will need more drug to achieve the same effect. As the addiction progresses, people will often lose themselves entirely, as their whole existence is consumed by the desire to use. They have no choice."







Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
38822 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:11 am to
Are all the people responding to Ctiger completely glossing over his sig pic??


He's trolling guys.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:14 am to
I just assumed everyone who said they opposed legalization was trolling.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30887 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:17 am to
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Are all the people responding to Ctiger completely glossing over his sig pic??


He's trolling guys.




The picture was made by another poster. He was a weed smoker. He made the picture out of oregano I think during a discussion. Funny pic but he cut off the C. I forgot his user name. But he was in denial about his drug habits too.


Throwing focus!!!!

Worked for a little while too.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30887 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:18 am to
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who said they opposed legalization was trolling.




Are you in favor of more impaired drivers and more driving fatalities all for the purpose of allowing a drug addict to legally fulfill his drug habits?
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 10:20 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38822 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:18 am to
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The picture was made by another poster. He was a weed smoker. He made the picture out of oregano I think during a discussion. Funny pic but he cut off the C. I forgot his user name. But he was in denial about his drug habits too.


Throwing focus!!!!

Worked for a little while too.


You're getting a ton of bites so keep it up
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30887 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:22 am to
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sig picture supports these drug addicts?.


I agree. It was funny for awhile. Time to retire it. Thanks.

This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 10:23 am
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37431 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:22 am to
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Are you in favor of more impaired drivers


if you were actually concerned about this you would be opposed to alcohol being legal
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30887 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:24 am to
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if you were actually concerned about this you would be opposed to alcohol being legal


Is alcohol currently illegal?

The discussion is on weed. Drug addicts are always changing the subject in desperate denial attempts.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30887 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:43 am to
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mouton



"Helping Someone Overcome Addiction to Weed

Feeling that one’s life is just passing one by is a typical symptom of weed use. One person who spent a decade smoking dope said that it was like ten years of his life was just missing. At Narconon recovery centers, the brightness and joy of really living can be recovered after symptoms of weed use have demonstrated abuse or addiction to the drug."


Stop rationalizing and minimizing your drug addiction. You can stop your drug addiction.

Good luck to you.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57907 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:48 am to
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He made the picture out of oregano
it wasn't oregano
Posted by LSU8654722
Member since Apr 2014
1495 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:49 am to
I'm not opposed to legalization, but there are problems that stem from constant use that I can see people having a problem with:

Lack of short term memory which could affect a person's tasks at work.

Maybe 5% of the people that smoke, can fully function while stoned. Of course the majority of smokers think they can, but they can't. It's also a harder to spot than drinking, because you can't tell if a person's stoned or just that stupid.

Mental issues like Anhedonia, apathy, lack of motivation, and "addiction". They all go hand in hand. The general "I don't care" or "I don't know" attitude used in making most decisions. That's why stoners usually have dirty homes, cars, and appearance. I mentioned "addiction", because some stoners will not make an attempt to advance their career because of drug tests, or not go somewhere because they can't smoke there.

In men it also lowers testosterone, and keeps those levels low if used constantly for a long time. Hence why stoners never fight.

Through long term use, people will get COPD.

There's also the financial aspect, which will only get worse through legalization. Add 15%-20% tax onto the price of it now and you'll see that shite gets expensive.

Of course a responsible user will not have many of these issues, but they are things to be aware of.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
7060 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:03 am to
Everything you need to know and more
Poeple, especially us Americans, are fairly stupid. I think the main problem is that once weed is legal accross the board then we'll be able to self medicate. That means we're less dependent on the fat cats. The shite that kills me is that you have motherfrickers trying to debate reform while smoking tobacco and drinkng alcohol. They must not remember history. Cracks me up. It's too obvious whats going on. Everyone with an education knows better, they're either stuck on stupid or have a different agenda.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
80182 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:23 am to
Still haven't seen one good reason not to.

Y'all are missing the whole point. People who don't use won't start using. Just because alcohol is legal doesn't mean everyone uses.

So no there won't be more slow driving stoners on the road. And making it legal should actually lower the price. People go to Cali and Colorado to get weed and sell it for MORE in the non legal States.

Who cares about low testosterone? You'd rather alcohol induced bouts of rage?

It just makes more sense economically to stop trying to destroy the most useful plant on earth.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 11:25 am
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:26 am to
- Denial
- Manipulation
- Switching Focus
- Minimizing
- Blaming Others
- Rationalization

Okay, this is a tough one, but are these referring (not reefering) to addiction or the political left?








I know, I know, trick question.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
80182 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:34 am to
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Opposed. Drugs have ripped a wide swath of destruction in our family. Wife's brother died at 31 from OD, sister at 51, she went from alcohol, to pot, to cocaine, died from a drug/alcohol binge. Nephew, 23 in rehab, cousin died from OD at 24. Grass is the common link with all, some never drank, but they all smoked grass. 

You are fools who want all the pleasure you can get at no cost. There is a price and it is steep.





Sound more like your particular family has issues. And I call bullshite that none of them had ever drank alcohol before. And you clearly stated one at least did.

My issue with people like you is where is your crusade over all drugs? You think if weed was completely eradicated people would just stop doing drugs? Because you believe marijuana is the link to that behavior?

People buy weed from drug dealers. Drug dealers sell drugs. If it was legal, they most likely are buying it from the store and would never have known they had access to other drugs. Just like people do with alcohol. They aren't meeting up in a parking lot where a guy has some coke and two beers to sell.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57907 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:38 am to
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There is a price and it is steep.

for people like you? Sure

There is no price for people like me.
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
8675 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 12:43 pm to
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Sounds like a major step forward to me.


I'm in the traffic safety business. Legalizing pot does not our roads safer, the opposite is true.
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 12:44 pm to
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Y'all are missing the whole point. People who don't use won't start using. Just because alcohol is legal doesn't mean everyone


bullshite. I was taught early on the importance of following the law to avoid potential problems in life. If I could have had access to alcohol, tobacco, or drugs, without breaking the law, there's a good chance I might have at some point taken that opportunity when I was younger. People like me who respect the law whether someone is watching or not exist, and just because you don't doesn't make my way of life irrelevant. Making it legal means more people will try it, and just because you're in denial of that fact doesn't make it right. And stop fricking deflecting to alcohol, that's an entirely different fight and doing so makes you sound like a bitch.
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