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Spain’s number’scontinue to fall - 809 deaths on Saturday

Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:06 am
Posted by AncientTiger
Mississippi- Louisiana - Destin
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:06 am
The total death toll rose to 11,744 - the world's second highest - on Saturday from 10,935 the day before, the Health Ministry said, representing a 7% increase in total deaths after a 9% rise on Friday. That is less than half the pace of the around 20% increase registered a week ago.
A total of 809 people died from the disease over the past 24 hours, down from Friday's 932 and Thursday's daily record of 950, the figures showed.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 9:07 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:06 am to
What's this mean for me
Posted by AncientTiger
Mississippi- Louisiana - Destin
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:09 am to
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What's this mean for me


Probably nothing.....maybe HOPE for the rest of us.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 9:10 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:10 am to
809 deaths in a single day is still some scary shite
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:25 am to
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What's this mean for me


It means we have practical evidence of the curve flattening globally.

Despite what any models are saying, looking around the world for what is actually happening gives a better idea of what we are up against.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Ohio
Member since Feb 2008
3255 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:28 am to
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Despite what any models are saying, looking around the world for what is actually happening gives a better idea of what we are up against.
brings truth to the statement that all models are wrong. Some are useful.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:28 am to
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809 deaths in a single day is still some scary shite


You people realize that people have been dying every day for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:29 am to
Percentages is a weird way to look at these stats. Especially without context.

If last week they had 5,000(?) total deaths, a 20% increase is 1,000 deaths.

So on Friday, if they had 10,000 total deaths, a 9% increase is 900 deaths.

Saturday, 7% increase was 779.

I am guessing on last week's numbers, and according to those guessed numbers the new deaths are decreasing for the dates they are speaking about. But I'm not sure what that means.

Just a weird way of looking at it. Maybe I'm wrong though. I guess that does mean the curve is flattening.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 9:31 am
Posted by lsu xman
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:30 am to
US dropped 1331 friday
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:31 am to
No it fricking isnt.

Its 800 people in the whole country, many of whom would likely have not lived till 2021 regardless of coronavirus.

Lay the total number of people who died on this day in 2019 and I bet the delta is barely noticable if at all.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20020 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:32 am to
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Percentages is a weird way to look at these stats. Especially without context.



It’s really the best way. The exponential nature of disease spread is what is worrisome. The percentage increase dropping means the the exponential increase is fading.

It quite literally means the curve is flatting (or we are approaching the apex or perhaps on the downslope).
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:34 am to
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It quite literally means the curve is flatting


I said that in my post. It still doesn't tell the whole story the way that article puts it.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:36 am to
Spain reported over 470,000 deaths in 2018 and 2019. 1300 a day average. So more context would be helpful. How many total deaths in Spain including rona? Is it 2100 now involving and increase or is it still in line with average? We don't know.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20020 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:38 am to
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said that in my post. It still doesn't tell the whole story the way that article puts it.




We don’t know the whole story. But if it were plotted on a graph, the decrease in percentage increase would show a flattened growth curve.

Take it FWIW.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:40 am to
I'm sure there is a slight uptick that on a graph with some skewed scaling looks really bad, but I bet as a percentage is certainly not worth derailing the world economy over.

I'm not sure why we dont see that data being broadcasted. The normal guy has never put any thought into how many people die in a "normal" day (let's say April 3 2019). We should be comparing those, not blasting that literally thousands of people are dying every day from coronas!!!!

If there is a significant delta there, than we know we've got a really fricking serious problem. I just still dont see it
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:40 am to
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Its 800 people in the whole country, many of whom would likely have not lived till 2021 regardless of coronavirus.



But that’s 800 people in one day that this disease had a hand in killing. Gloss it over all you like but that’s not good. This shite is real. I’m absolutely against shutting down the economies don’t get me wrong, but I’ll acknowledge that’s a high number dying of this everyday.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:41 am to
It's basically saying that last week and this week we are having a similar number of deaths per day, though it is decreasing. The use of percentages of total deaths kinda paints a different picture.

The good news is that surely the number of infected has risen, so the number of daily deaths staying flat is a good thing.

In any case, it's not enough information to really draw a conclusion.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 9:44 am
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6575 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:41 am to
It’s funny because the higher the total bodies stack, the easier it is for the politicians to say they flattened the curve.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20020 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:44 am to
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Its 800 people in the whole country, many of whom would likely have not lived till 2021 regardless of coronavirus.



This right here is what nobody seems to want to talk about.

Like I said before, let’s look at what is actually happening. By and large, the vast majority of people that get it won’t even know, and the vast majority of people that die will be old and unhealthy. These deaths will cannibalize more typical ways people with this combo of risk factors die (since as the flu).

When all of this is said and done, the talking point will be “it would have been much worse if we hadn’t done anything”
Posted by Pico de Gallo
Member since Aug 2016
1894 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:45 am to
Is it 809 people dying within a 24 hour people or the results/news of 809 new deaths coming to light in a 24 hour period?
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