re: Southwest Airlines corporate layoffs

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Sounds like a smart move for Southwest to cut the bloat. Not sure how you conclude this means they are in trouble.

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I think their troubles run deeper than that, Kelleher found a niche, had a few laws enacted in his favor to create in effect, the world's largest commuter airline, he ran it beautifully, for his time there, they're stuck in the past in many ways, but as long as they stayed in their lane they were okay, but getting a little too big for their little breeches without being prepared to step into a larger arena is kicking their arse

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Their headquarters started looking a lot like the Twitter headquarters where it was more of a place to hang out rather than work.

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I liked Herb's policy of mandatory company TGIFs

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I liked Herb's policy of mandatory company TGIFs

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Yeah Gary Kelly smashed morale outside of headquarters. He kept HQ fun since that is all he knew. I figured that once the Airtran executives started taking over, shite would get even worse which it did.

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I figured that once the Airtran executives started taking over, shite would get even worse which it did.

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wouldn't doubt that for a bit, ironic how the weakling companies that get taken over always seem to get their management, who weren't doing so great at the time of takeover, placed back in top management positions, I'm sure it has nothing to do with pre-takeover, under the table negotiated deals

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Let’s not forget AirTran is basically VerminJet which might be the worst airline in history so Southwest has some pretty horrible lineage.

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oh I know their history

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I'm sure it has nothing to do with pre-takeover, under the table negotiated deals

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Of course that would never happen. I predicted this as soon as WN bought them. And you started seeing the Airtrash executives get higher and higher positions.

Swa got some planes, ATL (which has pretty much be a failure) and the international routes that they had been desiring. The Boeing situation has hurt them but this was likely to happen anyway.

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Not sure how you conclude this means they are in trouble.

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Because they have never had mass layoffs like this before. You could say that they had layoffs when they shut down cities but they did offer jobs in other cities.

I couldn't remember Gary Kelly's name. I met Colleen, but never got to meet Herb.

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ironic how the weakling companies that get taken over always seem to get their management, who weren't doing so great at the time of takeover, placed back in top management positions

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Yes, Continental, take us over and move HQ to fing Chicago. Morons.

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I think their troubles run deeper than that, Kelleher found a niche, had a few laws enacted in his favor to create in effect, the world's largest commuter airline, he ran it beautifully, for his time there, they're stuck in the past in many ways, but as long as they stayed in their lane they were okay, but getting a little too big for their little breeches without being prepared to step into a larger arena is kicking their arse

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I still recall their massive shutdown that left people stranded a couple of years ago. I've never flown Southwest, and now I'm not sure that I will.

Delta, American, and United have their issues, but I've been bailed out multiple times where a flight was cancelled but they could move me to one of the other two airlines to get me where I needed to be.