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re: Something to consider when advising young people to go into trade work?
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:11 pm to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:11 pm to AwgustaDawg
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but here in the real world there’s a pile of plumbers currently out of work.
100% bullshite
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:13 pm to Sofaking2
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Where do most plumbers find the money? They have small businesses like this all over the country. They are literally everywhere. How much does it take to open a small company? It seems to be a riddle millions of people have solved.
If the business is successful, it’s likely going to sell for a million dollars or more. If he’s going out on his own, there’s going to be startup cost and at least a temporary loss of income.
It’s not something you just do because your boss retires
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:15 pm to backbone
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There’s a lot of deadbeats, drug addicted, drunks in the trades.
This is what you originally said big dawg
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You’re an idiot, how old are you again? Have you ever had a blue collar job? 60 year old men aren’t crawling around under houses, hell 40 year old men aren’t.
I’d ask if you were drunk, but if you’re a tradesman the answer is almost certainly yes
Posted on 9/25/26 at 10:50 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Gave you your first downvote
Posted on 9/25/26 at 11:15 pm to weagle1999
Digging a trench under a house in 100 degree weather isn’t that bad at 25 years old. Try doing that at 60. Trade jobs are like being a stripper. Good money while your body still holds up.
Posted on 9/25/26 at 11:16 pm to backbone
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If you’re 60 and still crawling under a house, you failed at your trade.
If we consider everyone but the most successful 10% of people failures doesn't that make us a society of failures?
Posted on 9/25/26 at 11:20 pm to backbone
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In the trades you move up being a supervisor, foreman, superintendent or owner and the young kids are the laborers climbing under houses.
The biggest fallacy is that all the Indians grow up to be chiefs. The other is that spending your formative years learning a trade somehow develops your business acumen. People go to business school for a reason, not that everyone who learns how to run a business must go to business school.
I’m not saying there aren’t alternative ways to learn how to run a business.
Posted on 9/25/26 at 11:25 pm to weagle1999
Have to remind them you can’t continue to be a dumbass and think you’ll settle for the trades and still cut it. Plenty of dumbasses get by in college, a tradesman has to be sharp and good at his craft.
Posted on 9/25/26 at 11:27 pm to wm72
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If we consider everyone but the most successful 10% of people failures doesn't that make us a society of failures?
The OT is quick to call everyone below the 2% a failure.
In this what source of education and what career path is the best, I think it’s important to acknowledge we all have different end goals. Personally, I feel like the people I know with the most success have been the ones that have pivoted multiple times and reinvented themselves multiple times.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 12:07 am to weagle1999
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There are almost 10M Americans working in the tech sector.
Electrical, plumbing, and HVAC are around 2M combined.
If just 20% of tech workers go into those trades due to AI displacement, it'll crush the value of that labor because you're doubling the number of bodies on the job market.
I've told every person who thinks that every young person should get a trade instead of going to college the same thing for who knows how many years now.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 12:09 am to weagle1999
quote:If it saves just one life, please never post here again.
If just 20% of tech workers go into those trades due to AI displacement, it'll crush the value of that labor because you're doubling the number of bodies on the job market.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 12:30 am to weagle1999
Hey, to be safe fron AI do something so beneath AI that you will be cheaper to employ than machine learning.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:34 am to Motownsix
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The biggest fallacy is that all the Indians grow up to be chiefs. The other is that spending your formative years learning a trade somehow develops your business acumen. People go to business school for a reason
Great post.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 7:59 am to Motownsix
Either you got it between the ears or you don’t. If you don’t, you’re climbing under house at 60 /thread
Posted on 9/26/26 at 8:03 am to weagle1999
I know a plumber. This dude just turned 40. Owns two houses. Ones a rental. He still drives 2001 gmc sierra. Smoking hot gf. Anything in life he wants he has. Everyday he is playing golf at 4 o clock. Guys living the dream.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 8:05 am to Sofaking2
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Where do most plumbers find the money?
I reckon most plumbers start with a small operation doing mostly residential shite jobs out of a van/truck with tools. Many of those fail (and go back to working for larger outfits) and a very small % grow slowly over time.
There are "trade families" who pass on businesses.
But typically a business like you described your son's boss owning are bought by other successful outfits who have the money (and ability to get loans large enough) to do so.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 8:06 am to tigersownall
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I know a plumber. This dude just turned 40. Owns two houses. Ones a rental. He still drives 2001 gmc sierra. Smoking hot gf. Anything in life he wants he has. Everyday he is playing golf at 4 o clock. Guys living the dream.
For every plumber like this there are probably 50-100 working hourly at 50 with a body breaking down.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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But typically a business like you described your son's boss owning are bought by other successful outfits who have the money (and ability to get loans large enough) to do so.
This dude thinks his son has some handshake deal to take over this thing, but private equity will swoop in and give the owner all cash and let him ride off into the sunset
Posted on 9/28/26 at 2:35 pm to deeprig9
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but here in the real world there’s a pile of plumbers currently out of work.
100% bullshite
I know the answer but you have this weeks statistics from around the country? Because I do - its what I do for a living. There is a downturn in employment opportunities for all building trade categories currently that is higher than the normal seasonal downturn. Building permits of ALL kinds are down across the entirety of the US and in all but select markets. It is what it is. There are lot of building trades professionals out of work currently in the US and it is in every trade and almost every market.....
Posted on 9/28/26 at 4:18 pm to 844_Tiger
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The people who want you to send your kids to trade school send their kids to the Ivy League.
Nothing wrong with trade schools, but always be skeptical of others telling you what's best for your children.
An elected school board member I know in Florida floods her FB and other socials about the benefits of jobs in the trades. One of her kids is in law school and the other just graduated.

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