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Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:22 pm to TigerDoc
quote:Yeh I am not elite. I am very middle class with a very good health care plan. I have NEVER been elite and outside horrific military healthcare, I have had wonderful care.
We have excellent health care for elites,
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:23 pm to Rebel
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are they coming here to receive better or worse healthcare than they would receive in their own country?
Best healthcare here, but not the best healthcare system.
Sprained my ankle, probably need medical care. I'd have to zero my HSA cash balance for an MRI. And I'd probably have to go to 2+ doctors before that even gets approved. Hell, I'd probably 0 my cash balance by going to my PCP and then giving me a brace and some ibuprofen.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:24 pm to tigafan4life
I'm glad you're happy, but every system has satisfied customers. The "best healthcare system in the world" has to be measured in the aggregate, right?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:24 pm to TigerDoc
how many hours per week does the avg american work vs those other countries?
how many of those countries have as much "diversity" among their population as we do?
which ones have as poor of diets as we have? or are obese as we are?
how many of those countries have as much "diversity" among their population as we do?
which ones have as poor of diets as we have? or are obese as we are?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:25 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
The best healthcare for elites =/= the best healthcare system
What’s elite? I think like bill gates and his man boobs. Not anyone that posts on this site.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:26 pm to dgnx6
quote:They did that during Covid.
Also places like Australia may say, oh your child can’t be saved no need to waste resources.
As far as wait times, the US system seems to do significantly better than almost all other countries in regards to specialists.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:27 pm to Rebel
No arguments. Our social determinants of health are shitty. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying our system is bad. It's just not the best system. It's excessively expensive and has massive disparities.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:28 pm to Scruffy
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all other
Curious, how many other countries have you been to?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:29 pm to Scruffy
quote:
As far as wait times, the US system seems to do significantly better than almost all other countries in regards to specialists.
as someone that has actually lived in Europe, I can attest that the wait times in the US are far far far less than what you experience in Europe.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:29 pm to Turf Taint
quote:somewhere between 15 and 20 different countries between Central America, Canada, and Europe.
Curious, how many other countries have you been to?
And that statement of mine is based on statistical measurements, not whether I walked the streets of Paris.
People actually measure those things.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:31 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
quote:
Sprained my ankle, probably need medical care. I'd have to zero the balance for an MRI. And I'd probably have to go to 2+ doctors before that even gets approved. Hell, I'd probably 0 my cash balance by going to my PCP and then giving me a brace and some ibuprofen
Or you can buy a brace and stop being a pussy since you already knew that’s what you were going to be told.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:31 pm to Rebel
quote:Based on actual data, not whether I walked around Kabul, anywhere from 60-70% of patients will see a specialist within 4 weeks in the USA.
as someone that has actually lived in Europe, I can attest that the wait times in the US are far far far less than what you experience in Europe.
I think it puts us at 2nd place between most western countries.
Canada is less than 40%.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:32 pm to Scruffy
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They did that during Covid.
They did.
Didn’t something happen in the UK once with them not letting a kid go seek treatment in Italy or vice versa? I can’t remember the details of that one.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:34 pm to TigerDoc
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It's expensive and we're not getting our money's worth.
Well we are charged more for medications than a lot of places.
Just look at the vaccines.
But I always hear liberal when it comes to helping other countries, well we are wealthier. Well that’s why our healthcare costs more.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:35 pm to dgnx6
quote:There was.
Didn’t something happen in the UK once with them not letting a kid go seek treatment in Italy or vice versa? I can’t remember the details of that one.
I actually agree that the outcome was inevitable, but British courts wouldn’t let the US government fly the patient here at no expense to the UK.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:36 pm to TigerDoc
that’s your takeaway from that chart? sure, we aren’t getting our money’s worth, but that’s not my take away from the chart you have there
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:36 pm to beerJeep
But what does it tell you that you have to be rich to take advantage of the US medical system? You will not see stories of middle class people flying here. Don't get me wrong, the US probably has the best care and expertise in the world, but the best system? That's debatable.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:37 pm to Klark Kent
Somewhere around 1980 our population’s health went to shite.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:37 pm to TigerDoc
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It's just not the best system.
do you understand that comparing a health care system that cares for 340 million people is going to be different than a country like Sweden that has 10 million mostly like minded people?
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