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Someone got disrespeck at Elmwood Shopping Center

Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:12 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41660 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:12 pm
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A fight at the Elmwood Shopping Center led to a shooting before 7 p.m. Wednesday, according to Jefferson Parish deputies. Deputies said two men got into a fight, and one of them shot the other. The victim’s injuries are not life-threatening. The shooter is in custody. Deputies did not identify either man. No further information is available.


Not yet sure if it was them, Yogi Bear
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18340 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:15 pm to
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Not yet sure if it was them, Yogi Bear


I’m gonna go out on a limb. If I’m proven wrong, I will apologize.
Posted by Cycledude
Member since Jul 2018
2402 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:16 pm to
Non life threatening injuries. Not really unusual around here.
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
7211 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:17 pm to
Fiance and I stopped by there around 5. Could’ve been us
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74705 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:22 pm to
Reminder:

Per Dr. Thomas Sowell and numerous other social scientists, “disrespeck” culture originated not in Africa, but in “the Celtic fringe” of the British Isles.

Blacks learned their culture from crackers
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The Black economist Thomas Sowell has traced the “disrespect” culture to the whites from the “Celtic Fringe” – an area comprising parts of northern England, Scotland, and Ulster County in Ireland -- who migrated to the South starting in the 1700s and established plantations (or worked on them as indentured servants). Black people, often enslaved, worked alongside and around them and their American-born descendants. At this time (although certainly not now), whites from the Celtic Fringe area had the same tripwire response to being dissed – “touchy pride” -- as well as many other traits now commonly associated with “gangsta” Black culture.

In his classic study of early migrants to America “Albion’s Seed,” the historian David Hackett Fisher referred to the oppressed people of this northern borderland region, encompassing Scotland, northern England and Ulster County in Ireland, as “some of the most disorderly inhabitants of a deeply disordered land.” “Manliness and the forceful projection of that manliness to others – an advertisement of one’s willingness to fight and even to put one’s life on the line – were at least plausible means of gaining whatever level of security was possible in a lawless region and a violent time,” Sowell notes.

Hundreds of thousands of people from this region migrated to America starting in the early 1700s, eventually migrating to the South. Many establishedplantations and bought enslaved Black people to work on them. Referring often to the scholarly and sympathetic study of this “cracker” culture in America by the historian Grady McWhiney, Sowell notes that they manifested “a touchiness about anything that might be even remotely construed as a personal slight, much less an insult, combined with a willingness to erupt into violence over it.”



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Sowell argues that enslaved Blacks would have internalized these norms from the whites they worked with and lived around. It might seem hard to imagine whites and Blacks sharing a culture on the kind of plantation familiar from dramatic depictions, where legions of Black people worked in the fields while whites were their owners and overseers. However, in reality, relationships between whites and Blacks, while fraught and founded in pitiless domination, allowed for degrees of interchange and familiarity. Plantations varied massively in size, and white children and Black ones grew up playing together, even influencing one another’s speech.

Black sociologist W.E.B. DuBois’ survey of Black Philadelphia in the 1890s, as well as studies afterward, shows that until the 1960s, the “cracker” inheritance from whites was largely confined to the least advantaged and segregated Black people. However, for the past several decades, aspects of the “disrespect culture” have had influence even among middle-class Black people.

For one, the Black middle class vastly increased after the Civil Rights victories of the 1960s, and therefore, for most middle class Black people, poverty remains only a few generations back. Culture does not always change in lockstep with income. Add to this that in the 1960s, many Black people rejected the old idea that our goal was to assimilate to mainstream (i.e. white) norms. Rather than engaging in what is often called respectability politics, many Black people embraced the idea of a separate Black identity – and one aspect of that was the chip-on-the-shoulder style.


Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41660 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:25 pm to
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Blacks learned their culture from crackers


Cool. They most certainly have advanced what they learned…
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
25264 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:29 pm to
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Blacks learned their culture from crackers


Why is that the only thing they, culturally speaking, chose to learn and internalize?

Every other "white culture" thing is made fun of, pathologized, and snubbed... there's a whole Smithsonian exhibit about it.

I disagree with the premise.. I think it roots from a culture wide inferiority complex and serious issues with impulse regulation.
Posted by LazloHollyfeld
Steam Tunnel at UNC-G
Member since Apr 2009
2141 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:30 pm to
Oh - so it’s whiteys fault again
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74705 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:35 pm to
Truth hurts.

Read the book Albion’s Seed.

Folks from Scotland, northern England, and Scots-Irish were a rowdy bunch, and they brought that rowdiness with them to Dixie.

Compare that to the stoic productivity of my puritan ancestors of New England, who hailed from the more civilized southern shires of England: beautiful Somerset, elegant Essex, delightful Dover and delightful Devon. The results speak for themselves
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61572 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:35 pm to
That’s a load of bull shite

quote:

Ulster County in Ireland

There is no such thing as Ulster County in Ireland
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
56588 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:44 pm to
quote:


Per Dr. Thomas Sowell and numerous other social scientists, “disrespeck” culture originated not in Africa, but in “the Celtic fringe” of the British Isles.

Blacks learned their culture from crackers


wt ain't got no culcha
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73770 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:45 pm to
Disrespek back in the day:

Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1653 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:59 pm to
So the very descendants of these rogue white, quick tempered Scots Irish settlers somehow figured out how to break this cycle of quick tempered violence for rule of law, common courtesy and public decency. Not 100% of the time, but let’s say 90% of the time. A massive improvement by any measurable means. Arguments and slights don’t always end with a pistol duel or knife fight.

Somehow, the slaves and descendants of slaves have increased the hot temperament of this “old world” way of chivalry and handling bidness, with more violence, less common courtesy and a major decline in public decency?

One improved greatly, the other took it to another level of degradation.

I mean, it’s a rather large stretch to believe this theory. I’ve heard worse I guess.
Gender identity taking the cake but, this theory is coming in a close second.
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Highstepper
Member since Jul 2009
52 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:12 pm to
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There is no such thing as Ulster County in Ireland

Technically correct. Ulster was the northernmost PROVINCE of Ireland. 6 of the 9 counties form part of the UK known as Northern Ireland, epicenter of “the troubles” and unrest between Protestants and Catholics going back hundreds of years with “ Irish Tempers” on full display. Not exactly a bunch of Amish. But there’s a lot of their descendants in the US who seem to have
got beyond all of that foolishness.
Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
5776 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:14 pm to
My guess is either by 5 below or in front of the Nike Outlet.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
13396 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:40 pm to
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Non life threatening injuries. Not really unusual around here.


Either Ochsner or UMC doing work, or people need a few hours at the shooting range.
Posted by CouyonRougarou
Gonzales, LA
Member since Jan 2020
157 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:44 pm to
Staying at the Residence Inn in Elmwood tonight #couldhavebeenme
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11361 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:51 pm to
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HailHailtoMichigan


You’re such a putz
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61572 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:41 pm to
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But there’s a lot of their descendants in the US who seem to have got beyond all of that foolishness.
And there are some who haven’t. The “Green” in my username isn’t because it’s my favorite color. Which it is.
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