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re: Solar at an Arkansas high school turns budget from a $250K deficit to $1.8M surplus

Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:56 pm to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24176 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:56 pm to
Which statement is true:

A) Solar at an Arkansas high school turns budget from a $250K deficit to $1.8M surplus,
OR

B) Consolidated buildings and campuses to reduce footprint, updating lighting, thermostats, windows, HVAC, water fixtures, and solar all contributed to turning a $250k deficit into a $1.8mm surplus

Let’s see if you’ll own your propaganda when it’s laid out in the most basic terms
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8791 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Let's just say I trust the AI more than some anonymous rando on an online internet forum. At least the AI backs up its answers with sources.


I checked canarymedia.com since that source is listed in your results. Their tagline is "Clean Energy journalism for a cooler tomorrow." On that website they had a link to the exact article in the OP. I am not against solar, I am against propaganda. How much did the solar panels and installation cost? What were the energy bills before and after. Until I have all the numbers - I'm not engaging.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74873 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:44 pm to
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In addition to everything it has access to online versus regurgitating Politard MAGA hack talking points...oooh solar bad, fossil fuels good. frick off.


Barely even questioned and you resort to name calling. Congrats on proving to everyone you are what you are pretending to hate. Do better.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13259 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 8:09 pm to
Ok thanks I was unaware of that
I guess I’m thankful that the previous owners didn’t lease
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18082 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 8:21 pm to
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I guess I’m thankful that the previous owners didn’t lease

Even if they had you can buy them out at year 5 usually. Tons of people do that when they sell.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63087 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 8:47 pm to
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This is going to trigger tOT.



So you think this high school setup solar and now produces 1.8M per year in excess energy over it's current energy needs?

Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13259 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 3:59 am to
Thank you
Posted by Combaro01
Member since Mar 2024
183 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:20 am to
I work on the admin side for a small district and yeah, energy costs can get brutal fast. After we added solar to two school buildings the pressure on the operating budget dropped a ton.

Teachers kept hearing “there’s no money” every year before that. Wolf River Electric in MN did the installation work for us and the long term math started looking way less depressing.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 6:10 am
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38722 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:26 am to
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Also looks like the solar only saved $100k annually.



When did $100k become a rounding error for a school? I would slap that on my business in a heartbeat for that kind of savings
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13259 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:31 am to
We have solar panels on our house in Az. The previous owner purchased them and didn’t lease them. I think he paid $15,000 back in 2019? So if he saved $350-$400 per month on electricity. So he sold the house last year to us. So he might have broken even. We have zero electricity bill, and moving from La our bill was about $500 a month. And at the end of the year we get a small check from electricity company.
I probably wouldn’t install solar panels unless I was living in the house long term. I think the key is purchasing a house that already has them installed and paid off vs leasing.
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3950 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:33 am to
Pay rise? They can’t even spell
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74889 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:53 am to
“….and the power company is required BY LAW to purchase the surplus electricity from you!”

-1980-ish solar panel commercial
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18082 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:45 am to
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I probably wouldn’t install solar panels unless I was living in the house long term. I think the key is purchasing a house that already has them installed and paid off vs leasing.

Unfortunately leasing is the only way to take advantage of the tax credit now.
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 9:46 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

I work on the admin side for a small district and yeah, energy costs can get brutal fast. After we added solar to two school buildings the pressure on the operating budget dropped a ton.


How much did it cost to put in the solar system?
How much does it cost a year to maintain it? How much money do you save a year?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20846 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:36 pm to
This is where solar belongs. On buildings, over parking lots, on warehouse roofs.


Not prime AG or forest lands.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18082 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:42 pm to
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How much did it cost to put in the solar system? How much does it cost a year to maintain it? How much money do you save a year?

Schools usually do one of two options for going solar. Either lease the system so you get the tax benefit baked in to your $/kWh with maintenance built in or they get second hand, b-line, or demo equipment for super cheap because it’s not tax credit eligible and schools obviously DGAF about tax credits. If they had to maintain it themselves if would be about $12/kWdc.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65870 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 1:04 pm to
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Solar at an Arkansas high school turns budget from a $250K deficit to $1.8M surplus


There is no chance they were paying $2M in power bills or that they generated $2M in net income just from installing solar panels.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182512 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 2:03 pm to
FYI, this is creative accounting for headlines. Do some research and you will see. They even closed whole portions of the school which contributed greatly to the savings.



quote:

A post circulating on social media makes a striking claim: a solar installation at an Arkansas high school turned the district’s budget from a $250,000 deficit to a $1.8 million surplus in three years, and the district used the savings to give teachers raises. The post has been shared millions of times with the tagline “We have the solutions. Implement them.”

The claim is substantially true — but the viral version leaves out almost everything that matters.


LINK



quote:

The Arkansas school district didn’t just install solar panels and suddenly start making millions. The project was a massive energy modernization effort that included:

solar,
HVAC replacement,
lighting retrofits,
windows,
insulation/efficiency upgrades,
automation systems,
building/campus consolidation to reduce footprint,
and long-term financing arrangements.

The district itself has stated that part of the savings came from consolidating buildings/campuses and reducing overall operating space — not simply from rooftop solar alone. ()

The “$1.8M surplus” also was not cash magically generated by solar panels. Much of that figure came from projected future energy savings being incorporated into the district’s long-term budget outlook. In accounting terms, reducing expected future expenses improves your financial position on paper — but that is not the same thing as generating equivalent new revenue.

A lot of the economics depended on:

federal incentives and tax-credit structures,
third-party financing/PPAs,
favorable Arkansas legislation and net metering rules,
low-interest bond financing,
and assumptions about future electricity prices continuing to rise.

Even the superintendent explained that Arkansas legislation specifically allowed the district to use projected savings from efficiency measures and solar to finance the upgrades and redirect savings into salaries. ()

That’s why the viral framing is so misleading. If you save projected utility costs over 20 years, people online often compress that into:
“Solar created a $1.8 million surplus.”

But that ignores:

financing costs,
long-term repayment structures,
deferred maintenance savings,
building consolidation,
efficiency retrofits,
and the fact that many of the numbers are projections over decades rather than immediate realized cash.

None of this means the project was bad. It may have been a smart long-term infrastructure investment. But the meme version leaves people with the false impression that schools can simply install solar panels and instantly turn deficits into giant surpluses. The reality is much more dependent on subsidies, financing structures, accounting treatment, efficiency upgrades, and reduced facility footprint.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6361 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 2:07 pm to
So has it raised the average kids scores? If not, it will disappear in first hail storm and turn into a budget nightmare
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13259 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 2:18 pm to
I’d rather purchase the system than have a tax credit for leasing.
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