re: Societies hatred of men that refuse to marry.

Marriage with the right woman makes a man’s life so much better than being single.

Marriage to the wrong woman makes a man’s life so much worse than being single.

That is the risk. And most of the time a man won’t know if he chose right until years into the marriage.

Fortunately, my wife is great and has made my life so much better and more meaningful, but you never really know how it will turn out until you do it.

Scary proposition. I told my son that it’s ok to be single and that’s a choice that only he can make.

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This board is full of GenXers, who lost their arse in divorces

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Go talk to millennials and Gen z about modern dating and get back to us.

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lot and I MEAN A LOT of people marry too young and haven't worked on themselves. Also this same population has a very very bad time vetting a proper partner.

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Throughout nearly all of recorded human history men and women were married in their late teens or early 20s.

The age at which people marry is not at all the problem or else the issue has been present for all of written history and people are getting married later statistically than they ever have.

I would argue the issue stems from a combination of historic changes in responsibilities due to two income households paired with social media and 4th wave feminism redefining female beliefs and expectations along with an unprecedented divide between men and women related to politics subdividing the dating pool.

I would further argue that men have never in all of human history been expected to do more within the relationship than they do right now:
-make a large income working full time
-help raise children when they get home
-divide household chores
-remain responsible for all outdoor and house maintenance
-help cook
-be more sensitive to females than at anytime in history with regard to feelings, wants and needs

Whether all of that is a good and healthy rebalance isn’t my point, but I believe the reality is the new load balancing proposition has caused many men, some with infinite prospects and some with limited prospects, to reject the whole proposition.

The end result of that rejection is a plummeting dating, marriage and reproduction rate and unimaginable loneliness for both men and women who are alone and stuck looking for connections via social media.

And yes I have a family so no I’m not an incel or singling out women as the only cause of the issue, just identifying possible causes for what is a self-evident fact: many men don’t want a relationship in 2025 given the current paradigm.

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I got married wayyyy later in life, and while it sucks that we are playing from behind a little bit, it's better for me long-term to have married the right woman period.

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This is me, sort of, I got married in mid 30's and thank God for it. I dont even want to know what type of woman i would have married and already divorced if 25 year old parrothead was making that decisions. Admittedly I had a lot of growing up to do but it was for the better. I may be the older parent but it has allowed me to be better of career wise and financially, which in turn benefits my daughter.

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Married people act like men who refuse to marry are cheating at life and not doing what they are supposed to do.

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Nah. We just think they are gay

Exactly. I’m a widower. Doubt I ever marry again let alone get into any kind of serious relationship. But companionship would be nice though.