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re: Sober baws of the OT Update

Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12346 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:41 pm to
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Now if you’re smoking 4-5 a week


4-5 a week is a problem? Link?
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8089 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:45 pm to

You've admitted and know that you have a problem. That's a lot more than many are able to do. Push on to the next step.

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10-18 beers a day drinker


On a funny note...now that I've hit the mid 30s if I did 10+ beers a day I'd never be able to trust a fart again. Stomach issues are what made me cut back from 20 to 25 a week...well that and elevated liver enzymes.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14564 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:55 pm to
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I hate asking for help


You shouldn’t. Lots of people need help. Lots of people are willing and happy to help. Nobody likes asking for help. It’s perceived as a weakness, but that perception is wrong.

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but here I am.


Awesome.

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r. I have a hard time for some reason around the 100 day mark give or take 10 days


Very common.
Posted by White Bear
AT WORK
Member since Jul 2014
17252 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:37 pm to
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Fell off the wagon right before Christmas,I hate asking for help, but here I am. Anyone on here ever helped an alcoholic? I know a few, Mr Clean has been sober a long time and several others, hoping someone like that could push me in the right direction. I had 190 days total and a month drinking since the summer. I have a hard time for some reason around the 100 day mark give or take 10 days. Tired of the merry go round. TIA and being the OT, please let the dvs commence! I actually deserve them

So stop counting days dude. Just quit and find something else to focus upon.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2141 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:43 pm to
I agree with the CBT, you have to realize why you started drinking, at one point it’s served you well. You have to find out the emotion that you cannot tolerate that makes you turn to alcohol, otherwise you will use other coping mechanisms to suppress these emotions, like the suggested smoking cigars, or even something that appears healthy like exercise. You must realize that the feeling to drink will be there, and that’s to be expected, become friends with it.

AA seems the most successful route, but I have some books I can recommend. Annie Graces “The Naked Mind”, A modern day version of Alan Carrs “how to quit drinking the easy way”. Gabor mates entire work, and his self actualizing book disguised as a parenting book that he co-authored, “Hold On To Your Kids”. Susan David’s book “Emotional Agility”, it has some great tools that you can implement to changing your habits. Russell Brands podcast is incredibly insightful, and is said to have a great book on addiction based off his experiences with AA.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:10 pm to
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Get your hands on some Psilocybin mushrooms and learn about micro dosing



I think I agree on the microdosing. .5mg capsule per day could do some real wonders.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31794 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:09 am to
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Start early to get rid of the hangiety and go from there. What’s funny is when I was sober I specifically remember driving past stores before lunch to buy beer and remember how ridiculous that was


I used to make jokes about how vodka and eggs tasted great together. (Vodka in the morning). Jokingly.

Then. I found myself sneaking pulls of vodka while cooking eggs for me and my girlfriend on weekend mornings to hide the shakes.

It’s a progressive problem and once it starts progressing rapidly, it’s a hell of a roller coaster and mostly going down.

For me, they’re were the things I had lost and things I hadn’t lost yet. Eventually there was only one list.

I never lost the love and support of my immediate family and a few friends and for that I am eternally thankful. I couldn’t have sobered you without knowing they’d be there when I finally did.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:17 am to
Just dont do it
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:42 am to
Let’s grab a coffee sometime Dave

OP, lots of good info, you asked for help which is huge. Hit my email and will help you anyway I can
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61600 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:59 am to
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I hate asking for help,

You shouldn't if you're sincere. Sincerity in humbly asking for something will always net positive results.

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I had 190 days total and a month drinking since the summer. I have a hard time for some reason around the 100 day mark give or take 10 days

100 days, 100 months, 100 years doesn't mean anything if not today. it's cliche but true.

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I actually deserve them

Quit beating yourself up. It takes courage to do what you're doing here.

There's been some good info here.



Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:16 am to
Sorry to hear that bro but its not the end of the world. You're soliciting help so that's a good sign. I have 2 1/2 years but it wasn't easy. I did the 90/90 AA meetings and stay close to others in sobriety. Covid has totally fricked up AA in many areas but like others have said, you can still ZOOM many of the meetings. For me it takes meetings and support. Even if that support is over the phone via text or phone call. A lot of people mentioned a sponsor. They're right. A good sponsor is essential, at least in my case. But you have to reach out to him before you take that first drink. I don't know where you're from or how old you are but there has to be other sober people you can hook up with that should be more than happy to give you some support. Keep up the good fight man!!

Here's a pretty good link that shoots you an email every morning. Great AA/NA information. It's called Daily ponderables..

LINK
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 9:28 am
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6378 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:16 am to
Its a battle every day I bet
I don't have an issue but I've heard enough from people that its something they think about everyday.

I wish you the best and strength in your recovery!
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15987 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:33 am to
I keep a journal for each day. Also, doctor prescribed Naltrexone to help with the urges.
Posted by TigerPaul
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
2996 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:33 am to
I fell off the proverbial wagon around 3 years for a couple days. Have 6+ currently.

There is no real stigma with having a few "false starts" in early recovery. I did and most people I know also. The clean time still counts in the big picture and the knowledge you gained didn't disappear. Disappointed in yourself? Sure, that is normal but it's also a great motivator.

For a different perspective, you have been sober for 100 out of 110 days (kind of a guess) which is way better than before I presume. Shake back and keep trying until you get it right.

Relapse is an opportunity for growth in many ways and I would argue some people need it to keep their ego in check. God knows I did around year 3 and I'm thankful in many ways.
Posted by Cregg
Orange Beach
Member since Jul 2017
2382 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:00 pm to
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Start tonight with open 12 step meetings online, discords

How do I go about finding these on a discord? Have never done it but would like to try it out.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31794 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:01 pm to
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Let’s grab a coffee sometime Dave

OP, lots of good info, you asked for help which is huge. Hit my email and will help you anyway I can


I’m down! I come to BR about once a month. Make meetings while I’m there. Definitely, let’s grab a coffee!
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:09 pm to
Where do you live?
Posted by StarryNight
Member since Jul 2020
100 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:37 am to
You can do this. Use the relapse as a reason to make an even stronger comeback. Definitely hook up with AA and find people to help you on this journey. No one understands an alcoholic better than another alcoholic and they can call you out on your bullshite when you frick up.

Find a new passion or hobby in life. We have hosted people in recovery by allowing them to come to our camp and fish and spend time on the bayou. We have all the fishing gear and boats for them to use. My wife said a person in recovery needs a new passion and nature and fishing/hunting, whatever is a great thing to do, to just commune with nature. I loved the idea and so we have our special guests

Our camp is a sober camp. We just don't like drinking anymore, having watched it destroy people that we love.Sure, some people can handle alcohol but some can't and we have a soft spot for them in recovery.

Best of luck to you. Find a new passion in life and immerse yourself in it.
Posted by CockyTime
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3371 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:23 am to
Someone (maybe arse) should forward this link to the congress woman in NOLA with the annoying voice to show her the positivity and sincerity of this website when it's needed.

And then get her to make you a sammich
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 3:37 am to
No downvote or personal experience. Thankfully, I've been able to stop when I wanted.

But don't be ashamed of asking for help; it means you want to do better.

I hope you get back on the wagon and beat your previous streak. I've known a few friends who've had some problems and some managed to control their problems while some kept having problems.

I really hope you do well.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 3:39 am
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