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re: So who hit the Sotheby's auction and came away with the $54M Mercedes?

Posted on 2/6/25 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 12:02 pm to
Were it for sale by Audi from their museum, the late 1930's Auto Union Type D might be in that rarified price range.

The Russians took two or three of them after WW2 and when later scheduled for scrap, an American collector tracked down remaining pieces and sent them to England for restoration of one car in 1990.

In 2007 it was expected to be sold as the most expensive car ever at Christie's Paris, later in 2009 at Bonhams Monterey, but a mismatch in the chassis and engine serial numbers created questions about authenticity.

Ferdinand Porche was involved in the design-build of earlier models using the supercharged V-16 engine in the photo below.

Auto Union's Type D had a dual supercharged V-12 550 hp engine. Legendary driver Tazio Nuvolari drove for Auto Union towards the end of racing in1939, just before WW2.

The Type D stands out to me as art meets engineering, while being more than advanced for its day. Simply a beautiful racing machine.







Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 12:12 pm to
Beautiful but I'd rather have the Marlboro F1 car next to it in one of the pictures. Senna model?
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:01 pm to
Not sure but I get it, would love to drive one on a track.

During the 2007 - 2008 recession thinking they'd depreciate, looked all over the country for a decent shape 993 gen 911, nothing fancy just manual and a NA engine. They just kept going up in price so bought a Vette.

The most fun I've had on wheels with an engine is below. A 1977 Kawasaki 1000 LTD with a few bolt on mods, carbs, ignition and exhaust. But when the first kid arrived the bike departed soon after. It was wicked fast.





Posted by Traveler
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:05 pm to
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1977 Kawasaki 1000

The KZ1000 was a very fast bike in its day.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:11 pm to
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a mismatch in the chassis and engine serial numbers created questions about authenticity.


Seems ridiculous for a racecar as long as it is the correct engine type.

Engines in racecars are changed as often as your underwear. I don't recall ever hearing "numbers matching" being used on a racecar for that reason.

The number of recreated parts on the Auto Union could/would lower it's value however. I read about this a while back and iirc parts and pieces were found in Russia. It was far from complete.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:12 pm to
What kind of wuss would drive that? real men drive f250s
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:15 pm to
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Looks like IMS is clearing out some inventory


They're, the museum, in the midst of a renovation costing $89M, so probably need to free up some cash.

*The IMS Museum is separate from IMS.
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:17 pm to
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Seems ridiculous for a racecar as long as it is the correct engine type.

Engines in racecars are changed as often as your underwear.


Not when there were only a few ever made. Different times.

If I'm not mistaken, one of the Mercedes engines was found in an old tractor in Russia. Some poor Russian farmer rigged it in his tractor. Now that same engine is worth millions.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 5:36 pm to


Communists.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 5:40 pm to
Bill of sale only. Good luck getting plates for that in Houston.
Posted by holmesbr
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 6:00 pm to
This a Singer?
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 6:55 pm to
Before clicking the link, I assumed it was one of those 3-axle Nazi staff cars.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 6:58 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:11 pm to
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This a Singer?


Yes, I think it is the Oppenheimer commission so named for the diamond not the scientist. It isn't one of the regular Singers it is from the DLS line built in conjunction with Williams Engineering. Singer is the car Porshe engineers would have built if you locked them in a factory for 10 years at the time and they were told to build the perfect driver's car for the street. The DLS is the car they would have built if they also had an unlimited supply of meth while they were there.

A Singer is the kind of car you can tell you drove over a quarter mid turn the DLS is the kind of car you can tell if the quarter was heads up or heads down while still being everyday driver compliant.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:13 pm to
Interesting article about how the three Auto Union cars were saved.

https://dyler.com/blog/337/the-detective-story-of-how-three-unique-auto-union-racers-were-found

Another interesting link with some photos I had never seen before.
https://porschecarshistory.com/11-auto-union/



The above pics appear to be the C/D that Audi bought from the Riga Auto Museum as it's a V16. Not finding pics of the Karassik cars/parts as they were coming out of the USSR.

Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:44 pm to
I bought it just to update that god-awful plaid upholstery…
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
5045 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:45 pm to
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I hear an OT baller bought it for their butler

No fatfrick of the OT is fitting in that thing.


Found the fat guy.
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