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So we blew up your house....sue us....then FOAD
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:13 am
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:13 am
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Police blew up an innocent man’s house in search of an armed shoplifter. Too bad, court rules.
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The city refused to compensate the Lech family for their losses but offered $5,000 in temporary rental assistance and for the insurance deductible.
Now, after the Leches sued, a federal appeals court has decided what else the city owes the Lech family for destroying their house more than four years ago: nothing.
All this over a shoplifter and
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The suspect, Robert Jonathan Seacat, had stolen a shirt and a couple of belts from a Walmart
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:14 am to Wtodd
Cops don't become cops because they're smart.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:15 am to Wtodd
Poli board?
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:16 am to Wtodd
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On Tuesday, a three-judge panel for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit unanimously ruled that the city is not required to compensate the Lech family for their lost home because it was destroyed by police while they were trying to enforce the law, rather than taken by eminent domain.
THIS specific ruling is correct, but i have to wonder under what other theories did they try to sue?
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A 9-year-old boy, John Lech’s girlfriend’s son, was home alone at the time, waiting for his mom to return from the grocery store
they're lucky those genius cops didn't call CPS and arrest the parents for this grave crime
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 9:17 am
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:17 am to Wtodd
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:17 am to Wtodd
So you want the city to pay for everything instead of paying their insurance deductible and housing while it's fixed? Why? They have insurance, let them use it with no out of pocket.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:17 am to Wtodd
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a SWAT team fired gas munition and 40-millimeter rounds through the windows, drove an armored vehicle through the doors, tossed flash-bang grenades inside and used explosives to blow out the walls.
We need to get rid of SWAT units. If you give these guys toys, they're gonna use them. And citizens end up getting fricked.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:18 am to Wtodd
That sucks but ultimately the civil liability for the damage is actually on the suspect in this case.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:18 am to Gusoline
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So you want the city to pay for everything instead of paying their insurance deductible and housing while it's fixed? Why?
hopefully to teach the stupid cops a lesson about playing army man
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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hopefully to teach the stupid cops a lesson about playing army man
Unless the cops are paying it out of pocket, that's just teaching the tax payers a lesson, no?
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:19 am to Gusoline
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Why?
Bc they're entitled to become whole again and I'm betting the 5Gs wouldn't make them whole.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:21 am to LNCHBOX
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Unless the cops are paying it out of pocket, that's just teaching the tax payers a lesson, no?
yup. they're ultimately responsible for their elected officials
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:22 am to Wtodd
Insurance company should be left to sue the city for compensation.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:23 am to Wolfmanjack
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Insurance company should be left to sue the city for compensation
Wut? This is what you buy insurance for.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:26 am to Wtodd
The lesson to be learned here is clear.
Don’t shop at Walmart.
Don’t shop at Walmart.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:26 am to SlowFlowPro
You do realize that on a total loss depending on the amount that homeowner will never get ins. Again.
My inlaws home in Lafitte burned down. They puchases another home and my FIL couldnt put his name on the title so they could get a reasonable ins policy.
My inlaws home in Lafitte burned down. They puchases another home and my FIL couldnt put his name on the title so they could get a reasonable ins policy.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:27 am to Wtodd
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5Gs wouldn't make them whole.
Morris Bart has taught everyone that an unfortunate circumstance is always someone else’s fault (not that it isn’t in this case) and you should always get a HUGE check. People aren’t happy with getting a fair settlement these days. They want it all.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:27 am to Wtodd
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On Tuesday, a three-judge panel for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit unanimously ruled that the city is not required to compensate the Lech family for their lost home because it was destroyed by police while they were trying to enforce the law, rather than taken by eminent domain.
The Lechs had sued under the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause, which guarantees citizens compensation if their property is seized by the government for public use. But the court said that Greenwood Village was acting within its “police power” when it damaged the house, which the court said doesn’t qualify as a “taking” under the Fifth Amendment. The court acknowledged that this may seem “unfair,” but when police have to protect the public, they can’t be “burdened with the condition” that they compensate whoever is damaged by their actions along the way.
Well, that is some bullshite.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
Are we really THAT much safer than when the local sheriff was handling things rather than a militarized police force going around blowing up the wrong houses over a shoplifter?
I mean, come on, there has to be some appropriate reaction and accountability for these things.
I mean, come on, there has to be some appropriate reaction and accountability for these things.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:30 am to jbgleason
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Morris Bart has taught everyone that an unfortunate circumstance is always someone else’s fault (not that it isn’t in this case) and you should always get a HUGE check. People aren’t happy with getting a fair settlement these days. They want it all.
I absolutely agree with this but the 5Gs wouldn't make them whole
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