re: So Stay At Home Moms Deserve 113k a year

Well said

Shouldn't clothing, food, shelter, utilities, vehicle, vacations, etc...be deducted from the 113k salary

The responses in this thread are pure gold. Gold Jerry, gold.

I used to smugly judge stay at home parents back before I decided to procreate. "how hard could it be?, OMG, I can clean and do tasks XYZ in 45 minutes, etc.etc."

Then I became a parent. (a full-time working parent, that is).

I now eat crow and will never say one negative thing about stay at home parents. I won't say a negative thing about non-parents spewing things they have absolutely no clue about either.

It all boils down to this: You're either in category A of having children or in category B of not. The individuals comprising category A have been on both sides of the fence. Category B have only been on one.

For people in Cat B to try and align the task of cleaning a frat house to stay at home parental duties is just a silly notion. The disconnect between parents and non-parents lies with the fact that latter people can never truly imagine, or have the slightest kernel of a point of reference, of exactly how doing the simplest of tasks....something that should take only 45 minutes, can realistically take double the time.

These experiences will all come in due time for most all. I don't blame people without kids for not understanding and speaking with such conviction. I did so myself three years ago. I sing a much different tune now. It's just about gaining a much different perspective. Something that happens when you're catapulted into the world of parenthood. Think about how your perspective has changed between now and ten years ago.

shite, by just skimming through most of these posts, I can presume some were still in grade school ten years ago.

With all that bullshite said, I'm leery on putting an arbitrary number on this task.

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I don't blame people without kids for not understanding and speaking with such conviction.

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I do. When you grow up, you can recognize that if you haven't experienced something, you might just want to keep your mouth shut. When you are immature, you think you know everything about everything. You see it here everyday.

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I don't doubt it's hard but when all the kids start school and they have all that time free, it can't be too bad. I know plenty of stay at home moms that still just sit around and do nothing when their kids start to drive

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Yes, I can see that side of it.

Truly, I'm not there yet, with regards to age, that is. My children are extremely young. Too young to do anything for themselves. My oldest just mastered how to take her jacket off last month. My youngest is a blob of protoplasm...a fricking cute one, might I add.

So right now, I'm in the midst of doing every-fricking-tiny-little thing for everyone.

I hear that you'll eventually reach this golden land (aka, the sweet spot) with kids...old enough to do some stuff, but young enough to give you worth, and still want to hang out with you.

So back to the original point, yes, I can certainly see the obscureness of the stage when all of the kids in the household are in school day in and day out. Right now, I'm at this point where if I have a day off without the kids, I'm running around like a goddamn crazy person trying to go to the store, wash as much laundry as humanly possible, cook, dust, vacuum, wash bathrooms, fold laundry, etc., all before having to pick them up from daycare and start the evening routine, just so I can fully capitalize on that one day off....in order to spend quality time with them on the weekend without being subjected to broken up playtime to accomplish such and such task.

I don't think anyone truly thinks that staying home to raise a child is "easy", it's the thought of actually paying someone to do it that is so ridiculous that anyone who actually agrees with it should be put away in a mental ward.

Do people not understand where money comes from, and why people are compensated?? You provide a service for another person and they pay you for it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

Who would pay you for providing a service to yourself? Have we gotten to the point in society where we believe we should be payed for basic human responsibilities?

Get paid for raising your own child.
Get paid for cleaning your own house.
Get paid for mowing your own grass.
Get paid for picking up groceries for yourself.
Get paid for eating said groceries.
Get paid for not dying.

Yeah, that dude seems fairly emotionally unstable.

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Nowadays it takes two incomes to live right.

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i guess if you're poor

That's perfect

"Nobody corrects them because they wanna frick em"

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Who would pay you for providing a service to yourself? Have we gotten to the point in society where we believe we should be payed for basic human responsibilities?

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I don't think they're actually advocating to pay stay-at-home moms. They're demonstrating the value of what they do and all the roles they serve, literally adding up the salaries of those roles (chauffeur + cook + cleaning lady, etc.). I don't know who'd pay them anyway, since it's like they're self-employed in a way that earns you no money. Still, I think the whole point is that stay-at-home moms are hugely invaluable in creating a safe, nurturing environment that helps make their kids into productive members of society.

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