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re: So States and Lawyers are going after Big Pharm for opioids,

Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37784 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:40 pm to
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I'm not denying that Pharma companies can be sleezy, but at the end of the day, you as an individual are responsible for what you put into your own body.



the company that manufactures Oxycontin, Purdue, deliberately and falsely advertised it as non-addictive for years. Literally hundreds of thousand of people were being prescribed that poison by doctors and taking their advice under the impression it wasn't addictive. They more than anyone are responsible for this.

This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Wolfmanjack
Member since Jun 2017
1204 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:45 pm to
Hmmmm, I work in healthcare as well. I get no kickback for prescribing meds. In fact I try to use generics when possible. Pain meds have their place guys. Good luck getting them when you need them cause we are all gun shy prescribing them now.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73032 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:53 pm to
Now that Amazon is in the drug game, this will get interesting over the next 3 years.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8509 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:20 pm to
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For fricks sake, when are the legalized drug dealers going to be held accountable for all of the people they have killed or have strung out?????


The problem is when doctors give out these
prescriptions for months if not years at a time and then cut it off, usually because of government involvement. Addiction with different substances effect everyone differently. If it were my family member I would rather them take and have access to legal pain pills vs turning to the street because we all know how that usually turns out.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13868 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:43 pm to
Blame whoever came up with the “pain is the 5th vital sign” and the hospital administration that values patient satisfaction over proper medical management.

I’m talking about legit doctors who prescribed pain meds and not the pill mill types.

Mark my words, testosterone replacement is the new “pill mill” in medicine. Lawsuits blaming them for strokes and MI’s are on the horizon.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 4:48 am to
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Blame whoever came up with the “pain is the 5th vital sign” and the hospital administration that values patient satisfaction over proper medical management.


This right here...Mr Press Ganey says keep them happy so they dont file a complaint.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 6:07 am to
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the company that manufactures Oxycontin, Purdue, deliberately and falsely advertised it as non-addictive for years. Literally hundreds of thousand of people were being prescribed that poison by doctors and taking their advice under the impression it wasn't addictive. They more than anyone are responsible for this.


this
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 6:24 am to
I have experience with pain pills because of a major leg injury. I had 7 surgeries in 13 days and was in excruciating pain during a 3 month hospital stay. The doctor made orders for delodum pain shots every 3 hours.

I had no idea this was straight morphine, which is very similar to heroin. When it was time to discharge they weaned me off for 2 days and sent me on my with prescriptions for high dosage of hydrocodone and ativan(anxiety). There is no doubt in my mind I was addicted to the delodum , which immediately turned into an addiction to the new prescriptions.

After about 5 months I made a personal choice to quit both cold turkey because I didn't want to spend the rest of my life dependent on pills. It was the hardest thing I ever did, but after a couple weeks I started to feel normal.

If I am ever in a similar situation in the hospital I will have to think long and hard before taking delodum. I don't blame the doctor or Big Pharm since my circumstances were all on me because I am the one who buzzed the nurses every 3 hours for pain shots and let myself become addicted. People need to look in the mirror and stop blaming others instead of taking personal responsibility.
This post was edited on 9/29/18 at 6:29 am
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 6:54 am to
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pushing them on their patients


You got that backwards.I've never had them push them on me.

I've had a Total Knee Replacement.I fought for all the pain meds that I got.

I don't take any now.It had gotten to be too much of a hassle to be in Pain Management.

I live in Alabama,which is supposedly #1 in Opioid Prescriptions.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31996 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:00 am to
It’s the new “Big Tobacco”...

We still have tobacco...
This post was edited on 9/29/18 at 7:01 am
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27590 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:10 am to
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit I have a herniated disk and and can barely get Narco 10's when needed.

Damn junkies ruined it those of us who need it
Posted by tinoLSU
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
150 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:49 am to
Y'all should read Drug Dealer MD by Dr Anna Lembke she's an addiction medicine doctor at Stanford that has a lot of good information about this.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5861 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 9:53 am to
It’s a breath of fresh air that your schtick is about up. You must be a sad little man IRL. You do deserve credit for your efforts though.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31996 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 10:33 am to
Remember when Morial tried to go after the gun industry because of the murders in N.O...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295768 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 10:37 am to
quote:

the company that manufactures Oxycontin, Purdue, deliberately and falsely advertised it as non-addictive for years.


It's mind boggling that any consumer would believe it was not addictive regardless of advertising.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129209 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 10:43 am to
For years they taught this bullshite that “pain was the 5th vital sign”

If you didnt treat pain you were cruel. There are some shitty pill pushing doctors but many prescribed opiates because of PC stuff pushed at high levels

Also, most narcotics are generic and not huge money makers. Percocet is cheap as hell or at least it used to be until regulation
This post was edited on 9/29/18 at 4:35 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23716 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 10:53 am to
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The doctor made orders for delodum pain shots every 3 hours. 

I had no idea this was straight morphine, which is very similar to heroin

Jesus. It's Dilaudid. It's stronger than morphine it is not morphine. Generic name is Oxymorphone. And heroin and Dilaudid and most other opioid s are derived from morphine, which is derived from opium from poppy plants. And you can keep stepping down drugs that differ in strength, but you will still have the withdrawal symptoms once you are totally off opiates.
Posted by 7thWardTo314
Member since May 2017
1406 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 1:52 pm to
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It's Dilaudid. It's stronger than morphine it is not morphine. Generic name is Oxymorphone


My fav.
Posted by GetEmTigers08
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2007
1239 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 2:33 pm to
I have a legit question for anyone in the know with all this: with all of this attention on stopping opioids is there anything being done with pain clinics and methadone clinics? As far as I know in MS, people are being sent to pain clinics by their family docs and trying to punt the responsibility to them, and I don’t blame em. It just seems to me that the issue is being moved to someone who is likely more than willing to continue prescribing for. And are methadone clinics only able to work with people trying to get off opiates, or can they put someone with no abuse history on a regiment for pain?
This post was edited on 9/29/18 at 2:38 pm
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1614 posts
Posted on 9/29/18 at 4:00 pm to
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Jesus. It's Dilaudid. It's stronger than morphine it is not morphine. Generic name is Oxymorphone.
When correcting someone, it's best to be correct yourself.

Dilaudid = hydromorphone

Oxymorphone is sold under the brand name Opana
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