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So States and Lawyers are going after Big Pharm for opioids,

Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:26 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:26 pm
but the legalized drug dealing doctors aren't even a target???

You can't get opioids, with out the legalized drug dealers pushing them on their patients for kickbacks, vacations, cash payments.


I have a derelict buddy who worked at Chrysler, hurt his shoulder, and he doesn't even have to come into the office to get new pills. He called w/out any contact of his doctor for almost 2 years and immediately got 1 month+ 2 month of refills for heavy pain killers.

For fricks sake, when are the legalized drug dealers going to be held accountable for all of the people they have killed or have strung out?????
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:27 pm to
Dont worry man we wont miss anybody.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:28 pm to
It's about time.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:28 pm to
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but the legalized drug dealing doctors aren't even a target???



They are a target, you just don't hear about it as much.

States are going after big pharma for money. They won't get money from incarcerating doctors.

I work in healthcare for a major provider and have a lot of experience on this topic. My father is also an attorney for a pharmaceutical distribution company being sued by a state. Its a family affair these days

This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:29 pm to
$$$
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:31 pm to
Also, I'll say, most of these "pill mill" doctors are operating within the law technically. Obviously, they aren't abiding by their own Hippocratic Oath, but they are very hard to prosecute.

If the laws change, that'll change.

It also helps that med schools are teaching different options for pain management these days and are very aware of the epidemic. My PCP won't give me 3 xanax pills because of how he was trained and educated. Says I don't need them (and I don't, I just had a brutal week of travel and wanted them for the plane).
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:33 pm to
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For fricks sake, when are the legalized drug dealers going to be held accountable for all of the people they have killed or have strung out?????


I'm not denying that Pharma companies can be sleezy, but at the end of the day, you as an individual are responsible for what you put into your own body.
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:35 pm to
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$$$


It will make the tobacco settlement look like a quarter.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:36 pm to
quote:



I'm not denying that Pharma companies can be sleezy, but at the end of the day, you as an individual are responsible for what you put into your own body.


I agree, however there are thousands of stories of doctors giving patients with relatively minor surgeries or injuries, several weeks worth of Vicodin or Lortabs and these people followed their doctor's orders and developed an addiction.

It is scarily common. Obviously education and awareness can reduce that in a perfect world, but we don't live in a perfect world. People don't pay attention and trust doctors completely and follow orders exactly as they're given.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:37 pm to
Crucifying nice doctors who just want to help their patients is wrong. My cousin has a disease that the only treatment is pills called fibromyalgia and it is so sad to see him suffer. If he didn’t have his pills he would probably be forced to turn to dangerous street narcotics like marijuana
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:38 pm to
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(and I don't, I just had a brutal week of travel and wanted them for the plane).


Sounds like a need to me.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Crucifying nice doctors who just want to help their patients is wrong. My cousin has a disease that the only treatment is pills called fibromyalgia and it is so sad to see him suffer. If he didn’t have his pills he would probably be forced to turn to dangerous street narcotics like marijuana



Fibromyalgia in a pain pill thread is some low hanging fruit for you
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:47 pm to
Drs really are shady as frick pushing these free pills onto you. Imagine if every time I go to my weed dealer and he wants to give me some free sample pills. I would find me a new weed plug.

So as a child, as long as I could remember, me and my cousins would go to the same family doctor at the same time. This Dr was the family doctor for my Dad's family since they moved into the area, so basically he served several generations of our family every year. And sure enough as kids we would all go and be checked out as perfectly healthy and every time he would give us all some free samples. As a kid who hated to take medicine, it made no freaking sense to my 7 year old brain to take these drugs when we were healthy.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6524 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:47 pm to
frick you. Tell your weak minded friend to stop being a pussy and have the shoulder treated instead of the symptoms.
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:54 pm to
Doctor get sued for not adequately treating pain by not giving opioids. Doctor gets sued for prescribing opioids after patient demands them and gets addicted.

I tell you what. You come up with an fool-proof objective way to measure a patient's pain then you can ride that high horse all day long.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:54 pm to
Doctors knew all along. They aren't dumb. I don't think most knew the extent of the addiction. But I've talked to plenty of older doctors and they all knew damn well that Opiods had some potentially very bad issues.

Point being is the ones that just recently stopped but that have been around awhile, hell yeah I don't have an issue going after them at all.

The larger practices and hospitals are really who they would need to go after though. The problem is a singular Docs don't have enough money for a class action lawsuit.
Posted by MBclass83
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
9354 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:24 pm to
It just makes it hard on the people, my mother, who really needs them to deal with their chronic pain. Only 1 per day really helps her life but she is having trouble getting them. She's 84 so whatever.
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3796 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:33 pm to
Hard to prosecute someone who operating within the law like this.

If you don’t like the current law run for office and change it. That’s the great thing about living in America.
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:33 pm to
and lawyers who sue drs for not relieving pain????? u assume too much.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32534 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

you as an individual are responsible for what you put into your own body.

Not in 2018 America....unfortunately
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