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re: So Lee Harvey Oswald arose from anonymity to
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:21 am to NIH
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:21 am to NIH
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The mafia did it
The mafia gunrunners that the CIA worked with to get weapons into Cuban hands for the Bay of Pigs fiasco are the same people that are connected to Lee Harvey Oswald. Check Oswald's service record, his connections to New Orleans mafia, etc.
The photo of LBJ's swearing in has an interesting connection to the same mafia through one of the men in the background from California. The connections at the time were through Pittsburg/Philly, New Orleans, Los Angeles, and Miami. The details are debatable but the connections are not
The same mafia that killed JFK pulled off 9/11 through their international gunrunning connections. Operation G-String
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Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:24 am to 777Tiger
Follow me on this.
JFK is elected in 1960. Who is ecstatic? The media. Kennedy is more charismatic than Nixon (Camelot - gag me) , and he's left wing (at the time), so the media is all in.
JFK is assassinated. Who benefits? The media. They get to sell papers about the tragedy and the aftermath for years to come, and lionize liberal JFK as a national hero.
Warren Report comes out with conclusion a left winger(self-proclaimed Marxist-Leninist) is the shooter. Media is outraged. How dare they appropriately point the blame at someone who believes like we do? It's got to be right wingers who did this.
Sow seeds on conspiracy, make it lucrative to become a conspiracy "witness", profit for years and plant the idea that right wingers killed the President.
They accomplish all of their goals by just planting the seed and letting idiotic Americans do the rest.
I can believe that conspiracy a lot quicker than a second shooter that there is no physical evidence of.
JFK is elected in 1960. Who is ecstatic? The media. Kennedy is more charismatic than Nixon (Camelot - gag me) , and he's left wing (at the time), so the media is all in.
JFK is assassinated. Who benefits? The media. They get to sell papers about the tragedy and the aftermath for years to come, and lionize liberal JFK as a national hero.
Warren Report comes out with conclusion a left winger(self-proclaimed Marxist-Leninist) is the shooter. Media is outraged. How dare they appropriately point the blame at someone who believes like we do? It's got to be right wingers who did this.
Sow seeds on conspiracy, make it lucrative to become a conspiracy "witness", profit for years and plant the idea that right wingers killed the President.
They accomplish all of their goals by just planting the seed and letting idiotic Americans do the rest.
I can believe that conspiracy a lot quicker than a second shooter that there is no physical evidence of.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:39 am to 777Tiger
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not saying they couldn't have had prototypes but that didn't go into production until 64?
He actually said ar15 which I thought was misspoken. I thought he meant m16 but I'm not sure. Also not sure when they went into production for service. What about mini 14?
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:53 am to Lucky_Stryke
I was a friend of Phil Chamberlain who developed Zapruder's movie film of the assassination at the Kodak lab in Dallas. He was the first person to view the film. Also there were gun runners from Ft. Hood being pursued by Dallas police in the weeks prior to the assassination. The week before Nixon was in Dallas representing Pepsi Cola Corp. .
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:57 am to Lucky_Stryke
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Also not sure when they went into production for service. What about mini 14?
don't know about the mini, there was an AR-10 developed before the M-16, similar but shot a .308 round, don't think they made very many
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:00 am to Lucky_Stryke
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here were x Ray's showing small fragments of bullet in his head that were not consistent with the other bullets recovered from the 6.5 carcano. As in there were 2 completely different calibers and round used. Ie fmj vs HP
May have seen the same documentary. The "magic bullet" was supposed to have made several entry points on two different people and remained fairly in tact, while the head shot fragmented on impact. Seems as if it were two different types of bullets for sure which would be strange if all fired from the same gun.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:10 am to Lucky_Stryke
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in the panic from the shots that the agent stood up with the m16 in hand and the driver gases the vehicle causing the agent to lose his balance. While falling he squeezed the trigger and that's the one that struck JFK in the head
The problem with this theory is at LEAST two-fold.
1) agents are trained not to have their fingers too close to the trigger, primarily due to what you theorized
But assuming he triggered-up and then lost his balance,
2) you are now surmising he delivered a literally perfect fatal head-shot in a haphazard, balance-lost, falling over ACCIDENT.
While not impossible, given all the places that round could have gone, to have it so perfectly execute the President of the United States via head-shot seems rather unlikely.
Also, note that when domestic claims of a "struggle resulted in an accidental shooting" ends in an execution-style head-shot, the police investigators are VERY reluctant to accept that, due to the unlikelihood of such a perfect shot. And that's from point-blank range.
The SS Agent was at least 8-10 yards from Kennedy.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:15 am to Splackavellie
Yes that sounds like the same one. Really interesting and could be a very plausible explanation
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:30 am to JPinLondon
I'm not trying to argue that is what happened. I was just saying that a well regarded reconstructionist stated that from his research and analysis from bullet trajectories and wounds, the head shot was fired from the vehicle behind the president. Along with witnesses on the bridge that was in front of the motorcade of smelling gunpowder. X Ray's showing bullet fragments in skull that were not consistent with the other rounds recovered from the govenor and the scene. It doesn't make sense to use 3 rounds of one type and one different round for the headshot when LHO was probably aiming for the head every shot
I'm not advocating that as truth just saying that with all the theories out there, its definitely a possibility however unlikely the chances of it happening, cant be swiftly disregarded
I'm not advocating that as truth just saying that with all the theories out there, its definitely a possibility however unlikely the chances of it happening, cant be swiftly disregarded
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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#2 You also have to believe that Jack Ruby, running late as it is, decided to risk missing Oswald all together when he stopped off at Western Union to wire one of his employee $25 to pay her rent like 3 minutes before he shot Oswald. You'd also have to believe that Oswald himself was involved in his own end as the only reason he hadn't been transported long before Ruby arrived at the police station was because he asked for a change of clothes.
There was no way that Ruby would be late. They were not going to bring Oswald out until Ruby was in place.
#2 You also have to believe that Jack Ruby, running late as it is, decided to risk missing Oswald all together when he stopped off at Western Union to wire one of his employee $25 to pay her rent like 3 minutes before he shot Oswald. You'd also have to believe that Oswald himself was involved in his own end as the only reason he hadn't been transported long before Ruby arrived at the police station was because he asked for a change of clothes.
There was no way that Ruby would be late. They were not going to bring Oswald out until Ruby was in place.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:20 pm to ScoobyDont
quote:See, now this is where it gets absurd with you conspiracy theorists...
There was no way that Ruby would be late. They were not going to bring Oswald out until Ruby was in place.
now you have numerous members of the Dallas Police Department in on the conspiracy. As if they weren't humiliated enough that the black eye Dallas was getting for the assassination, now they get to be the police department that botched the prisoner transfer of the assassin.
And none of this in any way explains why Ruby was paying a stripper's rent at Western Union just a few short minutes before shooting Oswald, and why he brought his beloved dog with him for the trip.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:02 pm to JPinLondon
I learned a new interesting angle this week as well:
There was a bit of a situation going at with TCU debating on whether or not to honor JFK with an honorary degree. They ended up NOT doing it on account of him being Catholic.
Had he received said honorary degree, the motorcade would not have arrived in Dealey Plaza until after LHO's lunch break, which subsequently was the same lunch break that most of the employees on the 6th floor took as well. Had the motorcade been held up, LHO would not have been alone on the 6th floor by the time it finally arrived as the Book Depository employees would have been back working or more likely-they would have positioned themselves at the windows to watch JFK go by.
The higher ups at TCU are the real criminals here.
There was a bit of a situation going at with TCU debating on whether or not to honor JFK with an honorary degree. They ended up NOT doing it on account of him being Catholic.
Had he received said honorary degree, the motorcade would not have arrived in Dealey Plaza until after LHO's lunch break, which subsequently was the same lunch break that most of the employees on the 6th floor took as well. Had the motorcade been held up, LHO would not have been alone on the 6th floor by the time it finally arrived as the Book Depository employees would have been back working or more likely-they would have positioned themselves at the windows to watch JFK go by.
The higher ups at TCU are the real criminals here.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:06 pm to OysterPoBoy
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You mean besides OJ?
No, including O.J.
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Are most killers public figures before they commit murder?
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:11 pm to Penrod
Kennedy said he would
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splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds
Moving away from Cold War and to coexistence with USSR
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:13 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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Considering how badly the bay of pigs fiasco went JFK would have never committed men to Vietnam. And the Military Industrial Complex needed that sweet sweet moola
So why didn't they kill Bill Clinton?
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:24 pm to baybeefeetz
Secret Service agent George Hickey fired the kill shot. He was in the car behind Kennedy, had just brought his firearm up, the convertible car he was in Lurch forward on a hard brake and he accidentally fired the shot that finished the job.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:38 pm to The Swindler
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go read Dr Mary's Monkey until then just shut the fukc up
Uh, I read it. It didn't have much to say about the Kennedy assasination iirc.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:40 pm to USMCTIGER1970
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e and his wife profited greatly from JFK being out of the way.
So did I, but I didn't kill him.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:44 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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the agent stood up with the m16 in hand and the driver gases the vehicle causing the agent to lose his balance. While falling he squeezed the trigger and that's the one that struck JFK in the head.
THAT would be one of the most remarkable coincidences conceivable. What are the odds that a guy falling squeezes the trigger and it happens to hit the POTUS 40 feet away in the head?
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:55 pm to 777Tiger
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