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re: So im more convinced than ever that the govt allowed 9/11 to happen

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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 2:38 pm to
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I'm a fan of Halon's razor which says: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity".

Recently heard Shapiro say that bout Trump
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 2:39 pm to
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I'm a fan of Halon's razor which says: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity".

Exactly. And that holds twice as true with the government.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 2:42 pm to
That's the point. I'm focusing on symmetry.

Even if the office fires burned hot enough to compromise the main internal columns the fires are not burning naturally in such a fashion to cause the column beams to fail simultaneously.

Building listing over time is what should have been observed. And once the building CG reaches past a critical point then you have catastrophic collapse.

In order for the building to collapse as witnessed the office fires should have taken out the majority of the interior columns simultaneously. There were 24 interior columns in building 7.

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Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 2:42 pm to
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No, I believe that the CIA crafted a plan that they gave to AQ while they simultaneously planted tons of explosives in three buildings (while being completely undetected). Then, on D-day, they were able to fly the people on the planes to an undisclosed location, without being detected on radar, unloaded them, made them disappear forever, take off again, crash into 2 buildings, then fly a cruise missile disguised as a commercial airliner into the Pentagon so we could get oil and opium.

Do you know how ridiculous you sound? You actually believe they used real planes?

The CIA disguised 3 North Atlantic blue whales as 737s, strapped them with explosives, and launched them from orbit at the Twin Towers and Pentagon. It was the only way to get the airline industry on board with this plan because they knew it would make people scared of flying.

Wake up, sleeple.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 2:52 pm to
Ran across this and thought it was interesting:
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Moreover, the smallest charge capable of initiating column failure "would have resulted in a sound level of 130 dB [decibels] to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile." Witnesses did not report hearing such a loud noise, nor is one audible on recordings of the collapse.


LINK
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 2:55 pm to
If you were paid off in defense contracts would you say shite? I know I wouldnt.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 2:57 pm to
That's my biggest rub. Now imagine having 85 of those 140dB charges going off at the same time just in WTC alone.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 2:59 pm to
Yes, I'm really interested in an explanation for that.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:03 pm to
Not to insult pigs but you truthers need to crawl back under your rocks.

Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:05 pm to
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Yes, I'm really interested in an explanation for that.

That's 85 of those charges per floor. They claim 3 whole buildings were rigged.


Hell, I'm sure you've heard your share of claymores and C4 going off in your day. Now take that noise and put it in a big drum 800 feet in the air.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:08 pm to
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." Witnesses did not report hearing such a loud noise, nor is one audible on recordings of the collapse.



However I just posted an eye witness account. The guy didn't have a decibel meter with him to measure the sound levels however he did say there were two booms. There are also a few youtube videos with the explosion sound just prior to WTC 7 collapse.

Seriously, they could have places 50 lb. sacks of thermite a the base of the column beams and as soon as those office fires ignited the thermite then the columns would easily melt. There was lots of evidence of thermite residue at all sites. Youtube thermite welding. It burns at 4500 degrees.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:10 pm to
If you can't account for the lack of noise I don't see how you can believe it was a controlled demolition.

Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:12 pm to
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However I just posted an eye witness account. The guy didn't have a decibel meter with him to measure the sound levels however he did say there were two booms. There are also a few youtube videos with the explosion sound just prior to WTC 7 collapse.

It only takes 2 booms to bring down a whole building, huh?

LINK
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:13 pm to
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However I just posted an eye witness account. The guy didn't have a decibel meter with him to measure the sound levels

An eyewitness account? There were tens of thousands of people within a half mile that should have heard distinct booms.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:15 pm to
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If you can't account for the lack of noise I don't see how you can believe it was a controlled demolition.




I witness accounts of exploitations just prior to collapse: LINK
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:16 pm to
Now it's thermite. They just tossed some sacks of thermite by the beams to melt them in the most non-precise, non-uniform, and unpredictable manner.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:18 pm to
NYFD testimony on explosions: LINK
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 3:22 pm to
So you think only firefighters would've heard explosions?

It only takes a few explosions to take down a 1000 ft building?
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