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re: So im more convinced than ever that the govt allowed 9/11 to happen
Posted on 8/7/17 at 4:58 pm to TigersHuskers
Posted on 8/7/17 at 4:58 pm to TigersHuskers
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So im more convinced than ever that the govt allowed 9/11 to happen
And I'm more convinced that conspiracy theory folks are retards that live a sad paranoid life.
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:00 pm to dfintlyHmmrd
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How often does that factor of safety include jet fuel being added to a fire? Or a commercial airliner being crashed into it?
I'm trying to get past building 7. There was no jet fuel or commercial airliner associated with the collapse of building 7.
Just paper and office furniture.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:03 pm to GumboPot
What was the incentive for the government to do this? To put us into a shitty war and go trillions in debt? Seems brilliant
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:06 pm to GumboPot
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That's why structural engineers use a factor of safety designing steel buildings. That's why office fires have never collapsed a steel framed building in the history of steel framed high rise buildings ever except for 911.
Yeah a 757 fully loaded with fuel slamming into the building at 500 mph has no bearing on that
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:07 pm to GumboPot
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'm trying to get past building 7. There was no jet fuel or commercial airliner associated with the collapse of building 7.
Just paper and office furniture.
And 8000 gallons of burning diesel
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:07 pm to TheIndulger
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What was the incentive for the government to do this?
Not sure but MIC spending is a huge incentive. That would be my first guess.
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To put us into a shitty war and go trillions in debt?
Exactly. Big profits.
quote:
Seems brilliant
I'm catching the sarcasm.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:11 pm to upgrayedd
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Yeah a 757 fully loaded with fuel slamming into the building at 500 mph has no bearing on that
Now you're just presenting the same assertions over...this has already been posted but here it is again:
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FAQ #9: WERE THE TWIN TOWERS DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND THE IMPACT OF THE AIRPLANES?
Yes. Airplane impact tests that were conducted during the design of the Twin Towers showed that the skyscrapers would withstand the impact of a Boeing 707, which has more energy upon impact than the 767 aircraft that crashed into the Twin Towers on 9/11. In the following years, lead WTC structural engineer John Skilling, WTC structural engineer Leslie Robertson and WTC construction manager Frank Demartini made statements that underscore that analysis. A more detailed answer is available here.
LINK
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:13 pm to GumboPot
I'm not sure why people think this is incongruent. The towers did withstand the impact of the planes.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:14 pm to TigersHuskers
you should watch loose change. that'll really get your conspiracy theory hamster wheel spinning.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:15 pm to upgrayedd
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And 8000 gallons of burning diesel
Those tanks were in the basement. The fires were on the upper floors. They had film crews on the first floor lobby as the floors above them were burning.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:16 pm to GumboPot
Was the Prasco tower collapse also a controlled demo?
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:17 pm to northshorebamaman
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Was the Prasco tower collapse also a controlled demo?
I'm not familiar with the Prasco tower. Fill me in.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:17 pm to GumboPot
A picture from the north where the failure that eventually caused structure-wide failure occurred.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:20 pm to GumboPot
Steel framed office tower that collapsed from fire a few months ago. Ruined the "no other steel framed building has collapsed from fire" talking point. Most truthers have reacted by claiming that it was also an inside job.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:24 pm to GumboPot
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Now you're just presenting the same assertions over...this has already been posted but here it is again:
So they're saying that the air frame of the 707 is exactly the same as a 767. No structural upgrades offering more rigidity and causing more damage is possible?
Also, just because an engineer designs for something doesn't mean they couldn't have miscalculated. I assume that when you're building the tallest buildings in the world, there's a bit of bravado involved. The guy who built the Titanic said it was unsinkable too.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:25 pm to northshorebamaman
I have to go for the moment but link the indecent and I'll read it later. I'd like to read about it. I just google it and not much came up but I didn't search that hard.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:26 pm to GumboPot
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Those tanks were in the basement.
I know.
quote:Yes, also in the basement
The fires were on the upper floors.
quote:Neat
They had film crews on the first floor lobby as the floors above them were burning.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:34 pm to GumboPot
I hate to use wikipedia as a source, but I think this gives a pretty good idea of everything behind 9/11.
Planning of the 9/11 attacks
1993 attack on WTC
In reality, Al-Qaeda is still the biggest terrorist threat to the US.
Also, after 9/11. There are people within the CIA who have said that they knew an attack was coming, but the most difficult part of knowing that was that they had no idea when and where it was going to happen.
Planning of the 9/11 attacks
1993 attack on WTC
In reality, Al-Qaeda is still the biggest terrorist threat to the US.
Also, after 9/11. There are people within the CIA who have said that they knew an attack was coming, but the most difficult part of knowing that was that they had no idea when and where it was going to happen.
Posted on 8/7/17 at 5:35 pm to upgrayedd
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So they're saying that the air frame of the 707 is exactly the same as a 767. No structural upgrades offering more rigidity and causing more damage is possible?
Also, just because an engineer designs for something doesn't mean they couldn't have miscalculated. I assume that when you're building the tallest buildings in the world, there's a bit of bravado involved. The guy who built the Titanic said it was unsinkable too.
All you have are objections and doubts.
Nothing describing or explaining the nature of the behaviour.
I just want good answers. Is that too much to ask for?
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