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re: So if the moon landing were real...

Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:40 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:40 am to
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how did they broadcast the landing from the moon with the technology in the 1960s?


The answer is easily

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:42 am to
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1960s I took off from this planet with what someone claimed had less processing power from technological standpoint that a cell phone


What's one thing got to do with another? "Processing power" is speed. Amplification is range. Radio waves we started emitting in the early 19th century is still headed outbound - yeah, it's getting weaker, but FFS people had brain power.

You know the atomic bomb was done by guys with chalkboards, slide rules and extremely limited access to very early mechanical computers.

Ask the fine folks of Hiroshima if that actually happened.

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So I'm to believe that the technology invented as a by product of the moon that appeared well before the 1990s in a wide ranging scale involved keeping the broadcasting technology under wraps until Dish and Directv while allowing Velcro and duct tape to hit the shelves?


No - the technology for satellites was available WELL before the 1990s - folks with money had large analog dishes in their back yards in the 1970s. Radio and television stations were using satellites heavily by the early 1970s - look up the Elvis, Aloha from Hawaii special if you want some examples. The closed circuit boxing market of the 1970s was also fueled by this technology.

I get that you're young and you don't want to "believe" all of this, but I'm old - I was there. I seent it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:43 am to
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You do understand how radio waves work, right?


By his posts in this thread, I'm guessing, "No, not really."
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:46 am to
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how did they broadcast the landing from the moon with the technology in the 1960s?


The same way they broadcast TV from the station to your house in the 60's: antennae. Unless you think you had a line that ran directly from your house to the stations.

Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:51 am to
it's like you're trying to teach a dog to play cards.
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:03 pm to
WE LANDED ON THE MOON!!!!
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:06 pm to
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WE LANDED ON THE MOON!!!!

troof!!! I seent the landing craft on the set right next to the Gilligan's Island set on a studio tour when I was a kid
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:57 pm to
Some people should not be allowed to vote.
Posted by PanhandleDawg
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89848 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:16 pm to
Better question for the conspiracy theorists: why would you fake Apollo 13?
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:18 pm to
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that you're young and you don't want to "believe" all of this, but I'm old - I was there. I seent it.


Can I have your autograph John Glenn? You're a great actor.

And the logic is sound. Everything we see on TV is nonfiction.

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Processing power" is speed.


Ok. So we'd still be waiting for the broadcast from the moon given it's not fast.

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You know the atomic bomb was done by guys with chalkboards, slide rules and extremely limited access to very early mechanical computers.


And it's verifiable the atomic bomb was invented. Because it was dropped on Japan.

Here, we have a TV broadcast from the moon. And you can argue technology all you'd like, but there's another variable. Technology is somewhat dependent on the environment it's in. Like the human body.

Sattelite signals are interrupted by rain.
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
The present
Member since Oct 2007
2028 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:54 pm to
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Sattelite signals 


Jesus christ, why did I even bother.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
96257 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Ok. So we'd still be waiting for the broadcast from the moon given it's not fast.


Okay - your presentation suggests you are trolling. On the off chance you're not -

Radio waves travel at the speed of light. Look that up and get back to me.

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Here, we have a TV broadcast from the moon.


And astronauts that went there, soil samples returned, you know, everything short of actually bringing the Moon back here.

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Sattelite signals are interrupted by rain.


No clouds and no rain on the Moon.

Did you miss the part earlier in the thread where I described for you a global system of relays to ensure overlapping and redundant means of coverage?

I mean - I'm pretty convinced now that you're trolling - but just in case, this is one last chance for you to "get it."
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted by 9WhoDat37
Member since Sep 2017
199 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Here, we have a TV broadcast from the moon. And you can argue technology all you'd like, but there's another variable. Technology is somewhat dependent on the environment it's in. Like the human body.

Sattelite signals are interrupted by rain.


Good thing there aren't clouds in space. Ever thought of the use of redundant sites on earth?

The signal was transmitted to 3 different locations

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The signal was sent from the LM’s antenna to the tracking stations at Goldstone, Honeysuckle Creek near Canberra, and the Parkes Radio Astronomy Site in New South Wales, Australia. NASA used a scan converter to adapt the image to a broadcast standard format of 525 scan lines at the higher 30 fps rate. Then, the tracking stations transmitted the signals by microwaves to Intelsat communications satellites and AT&T landlines to Mission Control in Houston at which point they were broadcast to the world. The translation process left the image significantly degraded, but it was still live footage of man’s first steps on the Moon.


And weather was a factor at a location due to wind:

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When Buzz Aldrin switched on the TV camera on the Lunar Module, three tracking antennas received the signals simultaneously. They were the 64-metre Goldstone antenna in California, the 26-metre antenna at Honeysuckle Creek near Canberra in Australia, and the 64-metre dish at Parkes. In the first few minutes of the broadcast, NASA alternated between the signals being received from its two stations at Goldstone and Honeysuckle Creek, searching for the best quality picture.

A little under nine minutes into the broadcast, the TV was switched to the Parkes signal. The quality of the TV pictures from Parkes was so superior that NASA stayed with Parkes as the source of the TV for the remainder of the 2.5 hour broadcast. For a comprehensive explanation of the TV reception of the Apollo 11 broadcast, see "The Television Broadcasts" from the report "On Eagles Wings".



This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46736 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:40 pm to
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Sattelite signals are interrupted by rain.




I...I.....I can't even comprehend dumb of this magnitude.

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21424 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 10:07 am to
quote:

m not arguing either way, but how would he know if someone rode his rocket to the moon?

Did he ride up?

The saturn ivb rocket engine is a 2 stage fire rocket engine... absolutely must be done manually. Kinda requires a human to complete those 2 burns, while circling in for translunar injection.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 10:18 am to
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Sattelite signals are interrupted by rain.

I...I.....I can't even comprehend dumb of this magnitude


Actually that part is true, ask any Direct Dish TV user.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56166 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 10:22 am to
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Actually that part is true, ask any Direct Dish TV user.


I lose mine when there is a lot of "energy" in the atmosphere directly over my house but during light rains I have no problems.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14798 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 10:39 am to
ETA: who cares what i think?
This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 10:44 am
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