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So if one of the citizens that saw the shooter on the rooftop had a conceal and carry.....

Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:46 am
Posted by WonPercent
BATON ROUGE
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:46 am
And was able to make a preemptive strike on the shooter, would he/she be hailed as a hero, arrested for murder or both??

Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:47 am to
Metal detectors at all entrances. People who spotted him were on the other side of those metal detectors.

ETA: Also, it's called concealed carry, not "conceal and carry"
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 8:54 am
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:48 am to
They would shoot you.
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:48 am to
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They would shoot you.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11426 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:50 am to
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And was able to make a preemptive strike on the shooter


Probably would have gotten themselves shot by SS for shooting a firearm in the area.
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Metal detectors at all entrances.
wasn’t this outside the “entrance” to the event?

Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:51 am to
You are taking a risk being shot by a sniper even approaching that dude. Tell LEO and get away. The citizens did their job. SS and LEO failed
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:52 am to
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wasn’t this outside the “entrance” to the event?


I'd assume all the people who spotted him were inside the event boundaries.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:54 am to
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I'd assume all the people who spotted him were inside the event boundaries.

You’d be wrong. The videos I have seen were in the shaded areas outside of the boundary next to the building shooter was on top of.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:56 am to
Honestly, as someone who conceal carries every day, it's a tough situation. I would think there are probably rules that state no conceal carry, even if it's legal. If not, I'd still think twice about carrying there. You know there are agents walking around the crowd who are trained to look for concealed weapons. I'd rather not take a bullet because they confuse me for an attacker.

Same for pulling a gun a shooting the shooter if I was carrying. There were enough police, security, SS officers...you shouldn't have to be the hero. If you pull your gun and shoot the shooter, you are going to have a 90% chance of getting shot yourself. They don't immediately know who is the good guy and who is the bad guy.

I would like to think I'd be much more proactive than the videos I saw. So many people pulling out their phone and videoing the guy vs. freaking out and warning everyone immediately.
Posted by bott18240
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
588 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:57 am to
So many secret service, local police and who knows what else they had on site. It would be hard to know if they are part of the protection I would think. You pull that out and you’re a dead duck.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:58 am to
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This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 8:59 am
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11426 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:59 am to
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It would be hard to know if they are part of the protection I would think.


That’s the main thing here. You might think he’s a bad guy & looks suspicious, but you don’t know. What if you shoot the guy & ends up that he was actually SS/LEO? Obviously we know now, but probably not obvious then
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
21584 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:03 am to

That citizen would have gone down in a hail of government lead.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:04 am to
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would he/she be hailed as a hero, arrested for murder or both??




he/she would be dead.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40455 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:09 am to
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he/she would be dead.


Correct. Whoever set the shooter up was surely keeping an eye on him. Most likely a SS agent. Definitely would have shot you.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11426 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:11 am to
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I'd assume all the people who spotted him were inside the event boundaries.

This was from the video of BBC interview
quote:

A spectator who had been standing just outside the grounds said in an interview with the BBC that a few minutes into Mr. Trump's speech, he noticed that someone was "bear-crawling up the roof," clearly armed with a rifle, and that he tried to notify the police. Law enforcement officials later said that the gunman had opened fire from an elevated position outside the rally's security perimeter.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16639 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:13 am to
Don't these type of events usually have snipers set up in different areas?Sure, the guy looked sketch and he should have been taken out prior.

But do you really want to risk shooting at a possible concealed SS sniper because you thought he looked sketch?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
74945 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:14 am to
If you shoot someone near a president, you're probably getting shot yourself.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:16 am to
neither of these. they would be dead
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
58078 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:16 am to
CC guy would have also been taken out by sniper
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