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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"

Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:47 pm to
What about shooting someone because they said the would shoot you?

That is where this case will hinge
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:48 pm to
There isn't a team Hayes. The issue is does Hayes have any legitimate argument to make. Initially it was 100 percent no. Now it is let's keep gathering all the facts to see if he does have an argument. Why be against that?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:48 pm to
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Actually, can you link me to the witness testimony of Hayes "rage" and acting like an "animal?"




this is how chad paints the picture cause the guy is a big black guy with dreadlocks
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:48 pm to
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chad, you jumping to conclusions 2 or 3 times and ended up being wrong in just 24hours is a sign that maybe you shouldn't put Hayes behind bars before a trial. Despite your terrible jokes you are usually pretty rational, but here you are just being ignorant




lester my opinions formulated with the witness video and hayes and his partner being hostile with Smith first. If the witness is making shite up, so be it. i'm going off an account of a witness. Claiming victory on a hit and run and all this is pointless in the end game of what transpired at scene. My original thinking was why fuller didn't pin point smith as the hit and run vehicle when asked directly. Fine assumed wrong. Still not sure why he didn't confirm that. In any case, being a brake check or not literally changes nothing. If anything, only further made Hayes mad and irrational at next scene.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:49 pm to
Wait, are you serious? Here isn't actual witness testimony of that?

Jesus Christ, Chad
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:50 pm to
What page is the video of Smith rear ending the guy?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:50 pm to
Where is the video of the witness saying Hayes was an animal and acting crazy aggressive to start?

I'm starting to believe you are making that up
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:51 pm to
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Actually, can you link me to the witness testimony of Hayes "rage" and acting like an "animal?"





when in reality they only think that can be linked is witnesses describing how smith was the one acting in rage and making people feel in danger
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:51 pm to
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Where is the video of the witness saying Hayes was an animal and acting crazy aggressive to start?


witness starts off by saying they start freaking out on this guy and they say we're going to fight you.
Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:51 pm to
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What about shooting someone because they said the would shoot you? That is where this case will hinge


If Hayes just stayed put and waited for his claims adjuster to call, he wouldn't have been in that spot.

Again, it's terrible. I chalk another two lives ruined to drinking and driving. Simple as that.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:52 pm to
That is the witness you have been talkin about?



holy shite you have been making everything up
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:52 pm to
There is a witness saying Hayes came up "freaking out" at the scene. We now know that it was because Smith had just done a hit and run on him. Not justifying shooting for that alone just stating.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:54 pm to
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That is the witness you have been talkin about?


that is also the only witness that has said anything about will getting his gun that in turn you are using as basis of argument. What are you finding humorous?
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:54 pm to
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WE already know for a fact he had cars in front of him at the red light.



Only Hayes had not yet arrived at the red light. He was 1/2 to an entire football field away, maybe farther. (I'm putting this into terms you might be able to grasp.)
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:54 pm to
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Only Hayes had not yet arrived at the red light. He was 1/2 to an entire football field away, maybe farther.


For frick's sake
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:54 pm to
From that witness I got he saw Hayes and smith having a confrontation, where Hayes said I'm going to fight you Etc, then the gun comments


It is also a very quick witness blurb and doesn't go into much detail at all

From the way Chad made it sound, I thought we had a detailed witness account speaking of Hayes rage and animal behavior
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:55 pm to
Page 46.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:55 pm to
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quote:
Actually, can you link me to the witness testimony of Hayes "rage" and acting like an "animal?"



this is how chad paints the picture cause the guy is a big black guy with dreadlocks


But but but look at the eyes of Hayes in the picture at he scene!!! Omg it's the eyes of a deranged man!! It must have just flipped a switch when his H2 was hit!!!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:55 pm to
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Only Hayes had not yet arrived at the red light. He was 1/2 to an entire football field away, maybe farther. (I'm putting this into terms you might be able to grasp.)
Holy shite. He was about one cars length from the car in front
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44882 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:55 pm to
Holy frick, I hate when we have to repeat everything. You are wrong. Go watch the wwl video
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