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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"

Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:39 pm to
He may still have to testify.

What other witnesses were there experiencing the murder as was Mrs. Smith?

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:39 pm to
Lester is showing bias, it's been reported by witnesses Hayes was freaking out wanting to fight will and that has swayed his opinion zilch in smith feeling the need to declare "get out of here I have a gun" to the soon to be murderer
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:40 pm to
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How u know that? Sounds reasonable enough though


Oh. I thought that was verified. I'll edit if it wasn't his friends. I thought they said it was?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:42 pm to
So from that video:

Hayes: Get out I have a gun
Smith: frick you I have a gun too, *reaches for gun*
Hayes: Shoots Smith

is that about right?
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:44 pm to
That sounds like the consensus.
Posted by 4LSU2
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:45 pm to
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So from that video: Hayes: Get out I have a gun Smith: frick you I have a gun too, *reaches for gun* Hayes: Shoots Smith is that about right?


That's what I got out of it. That's why I'm adamant that self-defense is not an option.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

other witnesses were there experiencing the murder as was Mrs. Smith?


There was a passenger in Hayes' hummer, to start
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:48 pm to
He may be an accessory.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:52 pm to
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He may be an accessory.


I read that he hasn't been charged with anything and I don't think he's been publicly identified yet.

I've wondered where he was while this was going on. Sitting in the car, perhaps. I haven't heard or read anything indicating anyone other than Hayes was involved, but I also find it curious that there was a car with Hayes' friends in it there. If that car was hit, it would seem it was already in place before the 2nd rear ending took place.

Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:52 pm to
Of course

A lot of shite "may" have happened, don't you think?

We can still mourn the travesty of Will Smith being murdered and at the same time not condemn anyone before the full story comes out. Doesn't mean you're taking the side of Hayes
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:53 pm to
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I'll edit if it wasn't his friends. I thought they said it was?


Whose friends?
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:59 pm to
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read that he hasn't been charged with anything and I don't think he


Wasn't it Kevin oneal (#killerkev on FB)
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 8:00 pm to
quote:


Hayes: Get out I have a gun
Smith: frick you I have a gun too, *reaches for gun*
Hayes: Shoots Smith

is that about right?

In my opinion you have the roles backwards. Hayes said frick y'all and grabs his gun and starts shooting
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 8:03 pm to
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Wasn't it Kevin oneal (#killerkev on FB)


Could be. He wasn't identified in the articles I read earlier.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 8:04 pm to
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There was a passenger in Hayes' hummer, to start



Other reports stated that a Kevin O'Neal was with the shooter. O'Neal and the shooter played football together at Warren Easton.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 8:05 pm to
They showed the picture of both guys Saturday/Sunday morning.
Hayes and this other guy.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 8:06 pm to
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Lester is showing bias, it's been reported by witnesses Hayes was freaking out wanting to fight will and that has swayed his opinion zilch in smith feeling the need to declare "get out of here I have a gun" to the soon to be murderer



im showing bias because I want all the facts before I say Hayes is totally guilty? Im not sitting here pulling for him. I just want him to have a fair shake. Any responsible American would. I honestly dont give a frick if Will Smith is a Saints player or a bum on the street. That is clouding people's judgement. You prob didnt believe Darren Sharper was a rapist either, did you? Athletes can be fallible. The sooner you realize this the sooner you will realize that you need to hear all the facts.


the conclusions you are drawing from :12 seconds of video may very well be right. But how goddamn stupid do you have to close the book based on that? You dont know what the frick happened leading up to any of that. Maybe that witness knows. But shite, it was on that video.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 8:08 pm
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 8:07 pm to
I thought they began recording right after the shots were fired.

Did I hear that on the news? I thought that's what they said.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 8:09 pm to
Well I'm not actually the court of law u know right? I'm just a person formulating an opinion with some appearingly credible immediate testimony of what transpired.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 8:10 pm to
The video is of someone interviewing a witness. It was after the fact, 10-15 minutes. The police were on the scene already sorting things out. It was like 3 sentences long and very vague.
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