re: Slow motion video of the cop shooting in Springfield, Illinois.

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Posted on 7/24/24 at 12:16 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Should it have escalated to this point? No

Do I buy that she was Ms Innocent, made a "joke" and was cowering? no

Can anyone tell definitively from the video whether there is water in the pot? Doesn't appear you can to me.

It appears that she ducked down and wanted to ambush him as he was rounding the corner.

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It doesn't appear to me that this woman wasn't in a state to actually be sane enough to ambush anyone. I don't think she had such a plan. It wasn't like she chose to go there on her own. She was pretty out of it. Look how she struggled about the ID. She wanted to show them papers.

It appears me this was a disturbed and paranoid woman that was in need of help, because she was scared and these cops escalated to 100 over a comment they misunderstood. It appears to me once they drew closer with guns drawn she panicked. I mean in a way I almost don't even fault it. It's absurd they were coming at her with guns over this. I mean she said sorry twice, held her hands up with the mitts and seemed pretty genuine about it.

Looks like she just freaked out as they drew closer. Again what's going to happen after a pot is thrown at their feet? She had such bad positioning she wasn't much of a threat to begin with.

The cop needs to use his fricking sane brain. If he even has one. Just back up. None of his reactions were necessary. They put her in that position, so if they don't trust her around hot water then they shouldn't have asked her to do that. They should have given her more patience after putting her in that position. That is on them IMO. I would not be looking for a reason to test her.

It wasn't as if she went to the pot on her own. It wasn't like she took the pot and then went towards them. She took it to her sink. Just back up and let her be if you are so scared, but don't go pulling guns on her after you put her in that position. Don't get your feelings hurt when she says she rebukes the idea that you don't truth her. That is not a threat and did not warrant the freak out by the cop.

And if you don't trust her, don't go forward looking for a reason to blow her head off. It's not like she had a gun. Or even a pan you can grip and do more with. It's a large pot that I believe required two hands for her to hardly hold.

If there was a gun on the counter (a much greater threat) no way do most cops just push forward. Definitely draw a gun, but give commands there.

Dude did not have to go officer badass on a mentally disturbed woman that just moments before was thanking them for coming to help her. He was annoyed the moment he got there. He was pretty sarcastic to her when he first arrived.

I watched a standoff outside in the woods during the night with a guy holding a gun and several cops standing around him trying to talk him down. I remember the main cop attempting to talk him down literally said, "We are here to help you and we will stand out here all night if we have to for you to be safe." They told him they were in no rush. And this guy was cursing them out calling them all sorts of things. They talked to this suicidal guy for over 30 minutes straight. Again he had a loaded gun. They continued to just tell him don't raise the gun towards them. Eventually he would go on to raise the gun and they ended him, but it sure would have been nice if these cops gave her the same type of patience. Especially considering she never actually threatened them. She never really turned towards them in a threatening manner (prior to them escalating.)

All he had to do was wait it out. Assure her they were only there to help. Unlike a gun or any other type of weapon at least the water would eventually go cold.

We'll never know what would have happened, but I feel like had he just stayed calm she would have came back to the living room without the pot and they would have been on their way. I've seen cops take way more verbal abuse and actual threats from crazy people than what she said.

It's so ridiculous.