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Singularity - Who thinks it’s approaching, possibly soon?
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:57 am
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:57 am
Much has been written about the coming singularity, as commonly defined, the advancement of artificial intelligence to surpass human intelligence, or as alternately defined, artificial intelligence that becomes self-aware, or also as defined, intelligence that self propagates.
Have we moved past the point where we think this is likely or even possible?
Anyone heard of George Gilder, and his latest book, Life After Google?
In a recent interview, he made the following statement as part of the support for his position that advanced artificial intelligence will always simply be a tool and not akin to human intelligence, “Thinking doesn’t produce consciousness. Consciousness produces thinking.”
YouTube of Heritage Foundation interview with George Gilder
Have we moved past the point where we think this is likely or even possible?
Anyone heard of George Gilder, and his latest book, Life After Google?
In a recent interview, he made the following statement as part of the support for his position that advanced artificial intelligence will always simply be a tool and not akin to human intelligence, “Thinking doesn’t produce consciousness. Consciousness produces thinking.”
YouTube of Heritage Foundation interview with George Gilder
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:01 am to Jimbeaux
If you program a machine, does it have free will, or is it limited to the information within the programming?
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:01 am to Jimbeaux
We're watching a race to see what arrives first: the AI singularity or humanity hitting full idiocracy.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:06 am to Jimbeaux
I don't know if there's a singularity approaching.
But I do know that a singularly stupid thread has already arrived and this is it.
But I do know that a singularly stupid thread has already arrived and this is it.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:10 am to Jimbeaux
Let me be clear, the point of the book, Life After Google, which I have not read, does not appear to be directly about AI, but rather focuses on why cloud based computing is fundamentally flawed in its understanding of human knowledge and how we think and act.
He predicts that block chain information technology such as what’s utilized in cryptocurrency will lead us to the next transformation of our economy and our world culture.
He predicts that block chain information technology such as what’s utilized in cryptocurrency will lead us to the next transformation of our economy and our world culture.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:12 am to Mike da Tigah
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If you program a machine, does it have free will, or is it limited to the information within the programming?
Are we under their control or are they under our control or what?
-Newcleus, 1984
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:12 am to 995webmaster
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But I do know that a singularly stupid thread has already arrived and this is it.
Sorry the thread is a little unfocused. I accept your criticism.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:13 am to Jimbeaux
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Thinking doesn’t produce consciousness. Consciousness produces thinking.”
I’d like to agree with this, but I’m not sure how this statement can be objectively true when we really don’t understand scientifically what consciousness is.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:13 am to Jimbeaux
Oh good. Another nerd thread where they pretend to be terrified that AI will kill us all.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:22 am to tilco
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Oh good. Another nerd thread where they pretend to be terrified that AI will kill us all.”
The guy in the OP is saying the exact opposite
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 10:28 am
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:24 am to 995webmaster
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But I do know that a singularly stupid thread has already arrived and this is it.
Sounded a lot cooler in your head, huh?
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:25 am to Jimbeaux
Were not even close baw.
Once, networks allow seamless gigabit connection that covers the planet, let me know.
Comms, whether verbal or binary, is essentially the key to establishing a hierarchy and collective mind.
Once, networks allow seamless gigabit connection that covers the planet, let me know.
Comms, whether verbal or binary, is essentially the key to establishing a hierarchy and collective mind.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:31 am to Mike da Tigah
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If you program a machine, does it have free will, or is it limited to the information within the programming?
If it learns abilities and is able to go above and beyond it's program in addition to altering his program i reckon that would be scary af
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:34 am to 50_Tiger
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Comms, whether verbal or binary, is essentially the key to establishing a hierarchy and collective mind.
That generally the point of Musk's crazy arse Neuralink company. He's not really interested in making the brain "smarter". He's interested in making the brain FASTER. His idea is that the average human brain is already fantastically well suited to computation. The bottleneck is our senses and how quickly information can be fed into the brain. Neuralink's whole goal is to get your brain to be able to communicate with all the world's networks as fast as your computer can communicate with the internet.
A vast majority of your time at work is spent just finding and retrieving information, not working with it. He wants to eliminate that idle down time.
Imagine how much more work you could get done all day if you could constantly read and post on TD in the background without all the typing and reading.
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:41 am to TigerstuckinMS
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TigerstuckinMS
You get it baw! :)
Posted on 7/25/19 at 10:55 am to Jimbeaux
If singularity comes it'll be one of those things like an asteroid that we only see when it is too late. That is my opinion.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:13 am to celltech1981
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If it learns abilities and is able to go above and beyond it's program in addition to altering his program i reckon that would be scary af
That’s essentially what machine learning is doing today, but it can only do so within the parameters that a human sets.
AI that plays chess can essentially “write its own code” and make itself better at playing chess, but that’s really it. It can’t “figure out” that it needs to change it’s own scope and start doing other things any more than you and I can sprout wings and fly.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:16 am to Jimbeaux
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Much has been written about the coming singularity, as commonly defined, the advancement of artificial intelligence to surpass human intelligence, or as alternately defined, artificial intelligence that becomes self-aware, or also as defined, intelligence that self propagates.
Sounds like three different and distinct definitions to me.
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