re: Since school isn’t safe in NYC, city will provide child care for 100k plus children

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So, now science says its the act of teaching that spreads covid

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In reality, where the rest of us live, the science actually says the opposite

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If I'm understanding correctly, it does seem 10x logistically easier to organize a safe way to oversee 100k kids than a full school system with 1.3 million?

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That would be the only way this makes sense. I would guess that they would have to put income limitations in order to get the numbers down that low. If they do that it may defeat the purpose for a lot of middle class people who need their kids to be somewhere while they work.

If the numbers are lower due to income requirements then that begs the question of how many kids total will be in daycare when you factor in people who did not qualify.

Vote-buying at its finest.

That doesn’t sound like a liability risk for the city at all

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Since kids will only go to school 1/2 time, the daycare is to fill in the gap for parents unable to keep them at home those days.

Not sure I see what's so wrong with the plan.

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What's wrong with the plan is that the kids would be better off going to school and staying in the same class full-time instead of doubling the amount of people they are interacting with.

Or do you think COVID-19 doesn't spread if you're at a daycare/community center?

Seems the plan reduces the amount of students by over 40% in classrooms and adds non school buildings for the daycare.

Also, allows significant reduction of at-risk teachers and staff.

I guess I do believe the scientists that say such increased distancing can prevent spread.

I can easily see that it will be arranged that the kids at community centers will get regular visits by some BLM activists

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Perhaps you should calculate more slowly if your math is telling you that daycaring 100k kids in re-purposed empty city buildings means more exposure than 700K kids going to school that day.

That's also subtracting those 600k )700k-100k) students and teachers conducting online instruction from subway travel every single day.

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We will try again because you clearly don't get how this works.

Scenario A) every kid goes to school every day and is in the same classroom every day. No daycare involved.

Scenario B) every kid goes to school some days and some of those kids go to random daycares and interact with other kids from other schools other days. Those same kids then return to school the the next day.

Scenario B spreads it more. The school is not in a vacuum.

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So school....?

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I do believe you have it surrounded.

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50k go to daycare each day and 650k stay at home

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I wasn't sure if it was 100K a day or total so I actually chose the number more friendly to your argument. If it's only 50k/day, that means even more students may stay home each day.

I'm not sure how you can say that even if 100k students "cross-contaminate" that this number does not still pale in comparison to the other option which is 700k doing practically the same thing.


It's highly questionable conjecture that even the kids who go to daycare would somehow cross-contaminate significantly less if they were at a school: the plan is also meant to alleviate crowding in buses/trains and school hallways to, you know, avoid as much cross-contamination. (I said "avoid as much" not "completely eliminate").

So, the plan seems to be using libraries and other public spaces with no more than 15 students grouped together and in locations that do not necessitate subway/bus travel.

Again, subtracting those huge daily numbers from the bus/subway crowds of students and at-risk teachers can certainly not be effaced since that is among the most likely points of spread.

This is not to even mention solving the problem of what to do about older/at-risk teachers, which is just as significant a hurdle to re-opening the schools as the kids.

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A lot of parents will not qualify for the free day care but they will still need to do something with their children for half the week

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We will have to see how this pans out and how many kids will go to other day cares.

I don't think it will be as many as you suggest considering that 1/2 of the students are 12-18 years old.

Also, a vast amount of jobs in NYC are currently being done at-home and the huge percentage of NYC jobs that derive from entertainment / bar & restaurant / tourism are virtually non-existent right now.



Like with any monumental desperation plan I can't imagine it will be anywhere near perfect but think the people in NYC probably know a little better what works better for them over the next few months.

It's certainly better than no plan at all aside from send 'em all back and hope for the best which is pretty much the thinking that put us into our current dilemma.