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re: Since 1966, 1,196 people have died from Mass Shootings(wash Post)
Posted on 8/11/19 at 11:52 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 8/11/19 at 11:52 pm to East Coast Band
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Still doesn't make them right, nor to be ignored. 1,196 innocent souls lost is 1,196 too many. How many have died in commercial airlines since 1966? It's fairly low, but it's not like the airline industry should just blow off a low number of deaths.
Could you also address the hood shootings and not just the mass shootings?
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 11:53 pm to SpyBoy
Needing a gun to "protect the home" is a dangerous myth. Does that mean I think all guns should be outlawed? Literally no one is suggesting that.
But maybe it's time the gun owners start looking at the numbers unemotionally too.
But maybe it's time the gun owners start looking at the numbers unemotionally too.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:05 am to SpyBoy
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Needing a gun to "protect the home" is a dangerous myth.
What world do you live in? The violent thugs have guns and won’t hesitate to use them. I’d rather have the ability to defend my family and let it be known as a deterrent that I am armed.
The police don’t come until after there’s a problem and often too late
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:06 am to supadave3
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They'll never be killed by a gang banger near the bus station. But they absolutely could be killed in a mass shooting. Slim chance, very. But still larger than them being caught in gang related drive by.
I’m pretty sure you are wrong there statistically.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:13 am to fr33manator
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What world do you live in?
A rational one.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:16 am to fr33manator
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The violent thugs have guns and won’t hesitate to use them. I’d rather have the ability to defend my family and let it be known as a deterrent that I am armed.
Like I said, I'm not advocating taking your ability away. But you are far more likely to shoot yourself, or your family, than you are to shoot a violent thug. It's statistics not politics.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:17 am to SpyBoy
So why does it seem irrational to want to be able to keep guns In my home for protection, hunting and sport?
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:23 am to fr33manator
Well, regarding home protection because of what I said:
Strictly numbers speaking you're likely never going to do so.
I'm pointing out that people toss around this notion of "needing" a gun for the home and that has no basis in the data.
Eta: and since this thread was created with the intent of showing what is statistical vs what is emotional regarding gun crime, it seemed relevant.
Strictly numbers speaking you're likely never going to do so.
I'm pointing out that people toss around this notion of "needing" a gun for the home and that has no basis in the data.
Eta: and since this thread was created with the intent of showing what is statistical vs what is emotional regarding gun crime, it seemed relevant.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 12:31 am
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:35 am to SpyBoy
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Well, regarding home protection because of what I said: Strictly numbers speaking you're likely never going to do so.
I’ve been robbed/burgled more than once at different residences. So there goes your argument. I swore to myself I was never going to be vulnerable in my home again.
And I am FAR more likely to have a robbery or home invasion than I am to be shot in a random mass shooting.
I hope I never have to use it, but I prefer my odds armed rather than unarmed.
Why do you want to impose your will on others?
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But you are far more likely to shoot yourself, or your family, than you are to shoot a violent thug.
I am not going to shoot myself or my family. But I am in statistically dangerous places every day,
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 12:38 am
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:41 am to SeeeeK
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Since 1966, 1,196 people have died from Mass Shootings(wash Post)
You forgot to include this part.
"Of the 1196 victims, roughly a third of them died between the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, in December 2012 and the massacre in Dayton, Ohio, last Sunday."
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:49 am to fr33manator
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Why do you want to impose your will on others?
Dude I can't stress enough how I have not said this.
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I’ve been robbed/burgled more than once at different residences. So there goes your argument.
No. First of all one case is not a data set, and even so it sounds like there wasn't a violent confrontation with said burglar. Did you need a gun in those instances? It sounds like you didn't have one then or maybe weren't home?
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:50 am to Bench McElroy
The numbers don’t add up for sandy hook and Dayton to be a third of the total
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:52 am to SeeeeK
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This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:55 am to SpyBoy
Your name should be soyboy very fitting name for someone with as much estrogen as yourself. I’ve never needed a gun to protect myself or my family ( well one time I would have but the guy never saw me ) and I hope I never do but why do you want to take away citizens rights to defend themselves? The only thing people NEED is food and water to survive but yet we have houses, cars, doors,locks, hammers and on and on. Do we need all these things to survive? Lol No but we own it anyway. WHO THE frick are you that you think you should dictate what people own? Will your opinion make people safer?
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:58 am to SeeeeK
it doesn't matter to the mainstream media and the powers that be. ALL that matters to them is indoctrinating the minds of the youth (and the gullible) with,
- guns are bad
- white skin is bad
- Orange Man is very, very bad
that's it. that's their agenda. these people are dishonest and evil.
- guns are bad
- white skin is bad
- Orange Man is very, very bad
that's it. that's their agenda. these people are dishonest and evil.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 12:59 am
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:58 am to fr33manator
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I’ve been robbed/burgled more than once at different residences. So there goes your argument.
You were calling the Houston scare convenient earlier before there was any significant news. Now you're saying that you were robbed twice. That's pretty convenient too.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 1:00 am
Posted on 8/12/19 at 1:03 am to SpyBoy
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Needing a gun to "protect the home" is a dangerous myth.
Oh please, if you are talking about Arthur Kellerman's long debunked study, and the several equally methodologically flawed decendents, then you have no idea what the numbers are. Go peddle propaganda somewhere else...
Posted on 8/12/19 at 1:21 am to geaux4tigers
Yeah, all these mass shootings in such a short period when other things are in the news cycle does seem too convenient.
And when most are proved to not be that at all, it seems like the media is trying their best to keep everyone scared,
Believe me i’d Rather not have had the negative experiences I have. They were very inconvenient.
But that isn’t a good reason why someone shouldn’t be able to have a firearm for home protection or whatever, however statistically unlikely it might be
And when most are proved to not be that at all, it seems like the media is trying their best to keep everyone scared,
Believe me i’d Rather not have had the negative experiences I have. They were very inconvenient.
But that isn’t a good reason why someone shouldn’t be able to have a firearm for home protection or whatever, however statistically unlikely it might be
Posted on 8/12/19 at 1:23 am to SeeeeK
If black people could shoot half as well as whites I think this argument might be going a different direction.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 1:30 am to fr33manator
You were robbed more than once and you didn’t have protection? Frick I can’t sleep without a knife close at hand.
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