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re: Sh!thouse lawyer gets schooled by Texas cop

Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:42 am to
Posted by Bmath
LA
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:42 am to
Was the guy traveling when he was stopped by the cop? How can the cop prove he was driving?
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:56 am to
I looked this up after watching the video. Only thing I can see is he is referring to this "presumed" speed limit law Texas has. You can apparently argue in court that even though you were doing 40 in a 30, you were still driving safely given the driving conditions at that time. You can have the ticket thrown out. Doesn't mean that you can refuse to accept the ticket, or refused to be detained by the officer.

I loved the "do you have a warrant" comments. Because an officer needs a warrant to detain or arrest you . "Oh shite, that guy over there just shot that other guy, let's go to a judge and get a warrant to arrest him. Because otherwise, what right do we have as men to arrest other men?"
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:59 am to
that dude in the car was a total tool.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:04 am to

I've been stopped by the officer in the video lol... Pretty nice guy and I took my ticket without a beat down.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:05 am to
That guy sounded like he was drunk. Where did it say he was a lawyer?
Posted by SCUBABlake
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Only thing I can see is he is referring to this "presumed" speed limit law Texas has. You can apparently argue in court that even though you were doing 40 in a 30, you were still driving safely given the driving conditions at that time. You can have the ticket thrown out. Doesn't mean that you can refuse to accept the ticket, or refused to be detained by the officer.


This is correct, in theory. Speed limits are prescribed by local entities and the Dept. of Transportation. Prima Facie speed limits are how it's done in Texas. But just because the speed limits are prima facie doesn't make them unenforceable.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:58 am to
Just watched on my phone this time. Good Lord that driver was a tool. Also it sounded incredibly apparent that he'd been drinking. My favorite exchange was "the D..The DA..he has said that when...the DA said...oh cmon you know? No, it wasn't the DA it was the...it was, the prosecutor! Yeah the prosecutor said that in the staaate of texas, speeding in and of itself isn't illegal"


Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:14 am to
A lawyer is not involved here. But the cop was very patient with this citizen.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:23 am to
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I was hoping the cop would taze him or beat him with that stick.


I was expecting to hear "stop resisting" followed by two muffled gunshots.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 11:27 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:24 am to
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Where did it say he was a lawyer?


He didn't say, but he pretended to be one.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52591 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:25 am to
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Both are supreme douches

In this instance I disagree
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52591 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:28 am to
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Lady argues with cop when she is parked in a fire lane

That's one bitch that I would probably punch
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52591 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:30 am to
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and I took my ticket without a beat down.
well you obviously didn't know your rights
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:32 am to
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Where did it say he was a lawyer?


assuming that's why OP used the term "shithouse lawyer"
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64086 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:01 pm to
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assuming that's why OP used the term "shithouse lawyer"



Precisely.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 1:18 pm
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:17 pm to
Everything the "lawyer" said was actually correct. Just saying.


ETA: the cop had really no reason to bust his window out either. Should have called the supervisor, frankly. Now he's in a shite storm of a legal matter for no reason.

That said, the "lawyer" was an arse. You were speeding. You knew you were speeding. Hand over your license and registration, take the ticket, and fight it in court if you want. Now, you have a busted out window and a lawsuit against the city. Have fun with that.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 12:21 pm
Posted by TigerFred
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Member since Aug 2003
27975 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:24 pm to
Dude has no chance with a lawsuit. His own video will kill his chances of ever winning.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12793 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:28 pm to
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Dude has no chance with a lawsuit. His own video will kill his chances of ever winning.


You have no idea what you're talking about. That shite will settle with the quickness, but not because of the "lawyer" having no case.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11051 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:35 pm to
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Here are some other great soveriegn citizen videos


From youtube:

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What's the big deal? They didn't taser him, they only tasered his person.


Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:41 pm to
No he wasn't correct. He was traveling at a speed I excess of the posted limit. The cop felt it was unsafe and pulled him over. At that point the cop had reason to stop him. If that's not the case, then you're saying everyone can drive 100 mph because police do not have authority to pull you over. When he refused to provide identification, the cop had probable cause to detain him. Then when he refused, you get borderline resisting arrest.
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