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Should we allow Incentivizing Adoption

Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:46 am
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:46 am
It's my perception that adopting a white newborn healthy baby is quite tough in the USA. Why can't we allow adoptive parents to offer cash incentives to the birthing family ? Seems like a win-win to me.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 7:52 am
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:48 am to
So like buying children?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45503 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:49 am to
You mean why don't we let rich people buy poor peoples babies? No way that could get out of control.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:49 am to
You mean buying a child?

And fix your thread title or this will get anchored
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12537 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:49 am to
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cash incentives to the birthing family ?


Our government has this covered.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:52 am to
Men donate sperm , women donate eggs , surrogates get paid, what am I missing
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45503 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:53 am to
People would be in the business of making kids to sell.
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
18375 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:53 am to
should the other way around. birthing mother should pay the family thats going to adopt the child that she doesnt want, that will love it and give it a good life.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:53 am to
They don't have to be rich. Supply would equal demand. More young couples may see this as a way to help make ends meet.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:55 am to
Think of how many husbands and wives cannot even sniff a new white baby due to the adoption process.

At least with incentives , they have a fighting chance .
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:57 am to
Sell is a negative word here. I would argue that more couples would have the ability to offer adoptive parents the chance to raise their own child.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:57 am to
So, you're wanting to offer incentives for selling your kid?

Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:59 am to
So what is better here?
1. A couple has an easy time adopting a baby and can now begin their family
2. Same old , same old. It's nearly impossible to adopt.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3586 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:59 am to
This is already happening. Many adopting parents pay rent, groceries, utilities to their birth mothers. Plus the federal govt gives a $13K tax credit to the adopting parents once it is finalized.

ETA: And yes, it is like selling kids. Some deplorables do this multiple times to supplement their income.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 8:01 am
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:06 am to
quote:

This is already happening. Many adopting parents pay rent, groceries, utilities to their birth mothers. Plus the federal govt gives a $13K tax credit to the adopting parents once it is finalized.


So, it looks like there is already some incentives present and legal in the market. The "leap" wouldn't be that big of a stretch.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12941 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:21 am to
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Why can't we allow adoptive parents to offer cash incentives to the birthing family ?


Thats no different than what we are doing now-encouraging poor people to have babies they cant take care of.

If anything, incentivize the adopting couple for giving a helpless baby a family. Or at least cut out all the red tape and make it easier and faster to adopt.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 8:22 am
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:26 am to
quote:

So like buying children?


No, not buying children. Just exchanging money in order to acquire children.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68603 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:32 am to
quote:

It's my perception that adopting a white newborn healthy baby is quite tough in the USA

It's tough bc there aren't a lot of them to adopt.

The whole adoption process needs to be simplified & incentived. FL's adoption process is fairly simple & cheap. Their motivation is to get kids out of the foster care program and into homes; not all states can say that with a straight face.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31623 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:32 am to
Monetary incentives? No. But providing free healthcare and wellness during the pregnancy for a mother that agrees to give up her baby? I'd be all for it.

And for all you white knighting about "how dare you suggest selling a kid", you ever seen what a private adoption costs? You might not be buying a kid from the mother, but you're sure as shite buying it from the adoption service/ attorneys. Isn't this basically what you're doing with surrogacy? You're paying a lady to carry your child.

As long as there are limits, i.e. Once you agree you can't go back on the deal, is it so wrong to give kids to people that can't have them?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Why can't we allow adoptive parents to offer cash incentives to the birthing family ?


While I don't think you can offer cash, it is very common to pay for 100% of the mother's living and medical expenses while she is pregnant. My wife and I lost around $25K to a girl that chose us to adopt her child. We paid all of that for 7+ months only for her to change her mind about giving the baby up once she had him.
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