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re: Should the U.S. Army Rename Posts That Carry Rebel Names?

Posted on 6/18/16 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 6/18/16 at 9:33 pm to
No

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Ft Hood is already named after African Americans


And frick you Kafka for making me laugh at that!
This post was edited on 6/18/16 at 9:35 pm
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 6/18/16 at 9:58 pm to
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If the Confederates States of America had won the war, would they would name forts and ships and such after Union Army generals and heroes?

I'm betting there would not be a Fort Sherman or Camp Grant in the CSA.


What makes you say that? Seriously. I think there would be monuments to great men in the north...absolutely.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21521 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:22 am to
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I think there would be monuments to great men in the north...absolutely.


Not sure what you mean by "in the north." They might build them a monument in the north, but I'm talking about in the confederacy in the south.

I'm saying that there is very little likelihood that a CSA would name a fort after a Yankee general from the army they defeated to gain independence. It would be like George Washington and the newly formed United States naming a fort after a British general.

If you think they would honor Grant and Sherman in the CSA, I disagree.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:37 am to
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but b/c they were traitors to Merica.


OK smart guy, then I'm sure you can name a Confederate who was convicted of treason.

I'll be waiting.

LC
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61604 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:58 am to
The Union was kind and let them all go home. Me? I'd have lined up their leadership, had them all shot, and put them in gibbets throughout the South.

That's what they get for hating Merica so much.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39232 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:43 am to
On the list of things I need to worry about on a daily basis, this is pretty low. So my answer would be no.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 3:46 am to
Absolutely not. Leave it alone.

However, should SJW douche bag piece of shite liberal fricktards be taken out to a large field, have gasoline poured on them and set on fire? Absolutely yes.
Posted by 71stang
louisiana
Member since Jul 2015
149 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 4:40 am to
Unless your from the South you wouldn't. But since they LOST well it's up to who won to name!!!!!
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70469 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 6:25 am to
quote:

f the Confederates States of America had won the war, would they would name forts and ships and such after Union Army generals and heroes? 

I'm betting there would not be a Fort Sherman or Camp Grant in the CSA.



If the csa had won, there would be two different countries. As it is, there is one country, and Grant himself said "let us welcome our fellow countrymen home", referring to the defeated southerners.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:48 am to
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I'd have lined up their leadership, had them all shot,


Good thing you're not in power then, eh? Dumbass.

The reason the government didn't prosecute anyone is because they had no case, it wasn't due to any desire for mercy or forgiveness.

I guess you've not read up on Reconstruction or you wouldn't spout such ill-informed crap.

LC
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 8:53 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89808 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:52 am to
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Should the U.S. Army Rename Posts That Carry Rebel Names?


Dead issue. Been so for about a year or so.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:10 am to
quote:

If the Confederates States of America had won the war, would they would name forts and ships and such after Union Army generals and heroes?
The CSA would not have forced the formerly Union states to join its government. There would have been no need for CSA forts in the formerly Union states, and hence no need for CSA forts to be named after Union generals.
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I'm betting there would not be a Fort Sherman or Camp Grant in the CSA.
Where are the forts named after defeated CSA generals in victorious non-CSA states? There aren't any. Why would you expect a victorious CSA to do something that the victorious USA never did? But I wouldn't be surprised to see a Fort Grant in a defeated Ohio.
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3314 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:09 am to
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Good thing you're not in power then, eh? Dumbass.

The reason the government didn't prosecute anyone is because they had no case, it wasn't due to any desire for mercy or forgiveness.



the reason was not because they feared losing the case, the chief justice pleaded with them not to, he knew the south had every right to secede and he knew it could lead to the south winning their independence through the courts.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 10:11 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71175 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:17 am to
No, the confederates were every bit Americans as the Union generals, there were just two Americas for those war years. The military honors fighters in the names of their forts. They honor leaders and great strategists. They study great military commanders no matter who they fought for. Robert E. Lee was one of the greatest military minds of the 19th century, and is reauired reading for military strategists in training in practically every professional military.

It is possible to name something after someone honoring their achievements, talents, and character while not admiring their cause or all of the sociopolitical factors that went into it. Robert E. Lee was also an increadible American after the war. He did more to end the violence and bring the country together after the war than probably any other American who lived during that time. He also was a champion for education of freed slaves and for equality of the races. He championed the cause of abolition in the confederacy as well as for the integration of the southern army (and won). His own plantation was given up to create Arlington National Cemetery.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:29 am to
You're a fricktard
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:32 am to
No, they should not rename a goddamned post. The southern generals were far superior to their northern counterpart. Hell, European powers sent people over here to study CSA battle tactics. Where do you think Hitler came up with the Blitzkrieg?

And for the most part, they were better men in general than the northerners.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61604 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:45 pm to
sounds like you would have been another agitator that needed a lesson ending in a short drop and a sudden stop.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38566 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:58 pm to
I'm gonna say yes, go ahead and change them, just for the entertainment value. I'm nothing if not short-sighted.
Posted by Boxcar
Richmond VA
Member since Mar 2016
900 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 2:03 pm to
He also intregated the first church here in Richmond. Yet people up here fire bomb his mural and call him a racist. Da fuq?
History is not taught and ignorance rules the minds of society today.
This is how people like Hitler can uprise as the vast majority are like cattle, you can lead them anywhere and sell them bullshite and they'll buy it.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 2:05 pm to
Abraham Lincoln violated the Constitution and the rights of citizens in some of the most ridiculous ways possible and said some of the most racist shite I've ever heard.

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