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re: Should LSU be allowed to admit foreign students?

Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:14 am to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:14 am to
Yes.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
19241 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:14 am to
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there should be a moratorium on all immigration.

While domestic birth rates have never been lower and during a contracting economy.

Some of y'all are too racist and stupid to see past your nose.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
5303 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:18 am to
I never understood the big draw for international students. They steal information and intellectual property, what does the university benefit from it?

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66976 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:19 am to
There are going to be a lot of disappointed folks if the Department of Education is actually killed as it should be, which I doubt it will be. A bunch of people are going to be adding a few more states to their hate list.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 11:20 am
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
19241 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:19 am to
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what does the university benefit from it?
The same thing they benefit from domestic students: money

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They steal information and intellectual property
You mean go to school for an education? Please get a fricking grip.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
1216 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:20 am to
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I never understood the big draw for international students.

The USA runs on foreign brainpower.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58678 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:21 am to
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Any state university funded by taxes should be required to admit in-state students 1st, out-of-state 2nd.



Out-of-state tuition is very high because out of state students don’t support schools with their taxes. They actually subsidize in-state students keeping costs down. I would have to assume this is even more the case with international students.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
25149 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:22 am to
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Yes. Children of tax paying Americans, wanting to attend a state university funded by taxes, should ALWAYS get priority over foreign students!


Ok.

But your original statement said "in state 1st, out of state 2nd".

Is that regardless of GPA and test scores? All the students LSU, UL, LA Tech, etc. can fill in-state, regardless of grades and scores, before out of state students?
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11314 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:23 am to
Sorry Brad Wing
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
2609 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:23 am to
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quote:

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I moved to the US at 5 and am a US citizen

Then I don’t think you are who the OP was referring to.

I think he was. From the OP:
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[B] Hiring of foreign born faculty / teachers.

Dumb idea and I have to think it would unconstitutional. A citizen is a citizen.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
8749 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:28 am to
1968 I had to take EE for non EE majors taught at 730 am TTS. Teacher was Iranian, ex-pilot and in course introduction he described course content is very difficult with the wave theory calculations but he will give a c for effort, if one turns in homework, takes tests and attends every Saturday 7 am class.
A man of his word, and I attended every Saturday class for a c
Posted by Woodlands Tigah
Tejas
Member since Mar 2021
880 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:37 am to
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Is that regardless of GPA and test scores?


If you're asking if anybody wanting in should get in? No.

Any Louisiana resident, that is a US citizen, regardless of how they became one, and meets the academic requirements for the College they are applying to, should have priority over out of state and foreign students at LSU.

No where am I saying that foreign students not be admitted, I'm saying they should only be admitted after tax paying Americans have been admitted and spots are available.
Posted by Geaux Piggins Geaux
Member since Aug 2015
876 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:40 am to
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Out-of-state tuition is very high because out of state students don’t support schools with their taxes. They actually subsidize in-state students keeping costs down. I would have to assume this is even more the case with international students.


You make a great point. What's gonna happen when there is a sharp decline in OOS students, especially foreign ones, that are willing to pay high tuition? Most likely it would mean raising tuition across the board, altering TOPS, or making major budget cuts. I would prefer if colleges would eat the costs and greatly reduce admin.
Posted by dyslexiateechur
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
34527 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:43 am to
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Hiring of foreign born faculty / teachers.


Lmao. There goes my major. The majority of my Chemistry Professors were foreign. Oh and my calculus professors.

I’d hazard to say the engineering program would be gutted as well.
Posted by Woodlands Tigah
Tejas
Member since Mar 2021
880 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:46 am to
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What's gonna happen when there is a sharp decline in OOS students, especially foreign ones, that are willing to pay high tuition?



I don't know what the total amount is, but I can tell you, a large percentage of kids from Texas are offered in state tuition at SEC schools.

My son and a lot of others were offered in state tuition from Ark, LSU, OM, KY, and AL
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
23880 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:48 am to
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Hiring of foreign born faculty / teachers.

I don’t think there’s a huge pool of American professors that are both qualified/experienced AND want to move to Baton Rouge, Louisiana to work and live as a tenured professor

Not saying there’s not any but those jobs are not ones people are beating down doors for (aside from those professors desperate for tenure) and you’re limiting your options there for reasons that are not worth it
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11598 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:52 am to
Absolutely. What the United States needs more than anything is a brain drain where the world's brightest and able are educated in China or someplace other than Baton Rouge and Athens....fricking incredibly brilliant idea.


Anyone who doubts the fact that the one thing the United States excels at is higher education has to ask themselves why so many well heeled foreigners see to it their kid is educated in US Universities. While there those kids are doing all sorts of research AND being exposed to US ideals and culture...and either taking it home with them or in some cases staying and benefitting the US with their talent. If we are going to be a merit based country we should really educate the most capable of benefitting from said education, that does not exclude foreigners.
Posted by Commodore 64
Life's a garden, Dig it.
Member since Dec 2015
96 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:52 am to
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Lmao. There goes my major. The majority of my Chemistry Professors were foreign. Oh and my calculus professors.

I’d hazard to say the engineering program would be gutted as well.


Engineering, Compsci, and ISDS as well.

ISDS graduate here.
Posted by Commodore 64
Life's a garden, Dig it.
Member since Dec 2015
96 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:55 am to
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Anyone who doubts the fact that the one thing the United States excels at is higher education has to ask themselves why so many well heeled foreigners see to it their kid is educated in US Universities. While there those kids are doing all sorts of research AND being exposed to US ideals and culture...and either taking it home with them or in some cases staying and benefitting the US with their talent. If we are going to be a merit based country we should really educate the most capable of benefitting from said education, that does not exclude foreigners.



Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11598 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:55 am to
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The USA runs on foreign brainpower.



Always has. The anti-education, anti-intellectual crowd that always takes over when a dictatorship begins is in full gear and accelerating at an unnerving pace in the US today.
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