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re: Should all drugs be legal?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:00 pm to PhiTiger1764
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:00 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Anyone who thinks meth or heroin should be legal are fricking idiots.
Why?
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:01 pm to BurningHeart
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we put people in jail for ingesting a substance in the comfort of their own home.
We don’t.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:01 pm to tgrbaitn08
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The majority of inmates in prison are drug addicts.
True.
But when you dig deeper they are usually incarcerated because they had a history of other criminal acts and/or pled down to just possession.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:02 pm to tgrbaitn08
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We don’t.
It's absolutely illegal to snort some coke in your living room. The cops could come into your house (with proper probable cause), arrest you and put you in prison.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:03 pm to tgrbaitn08
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We don’t.
Possession and use of illegal narcotics is a chargeable crime.
Drugs should be legal to use by adults as long as they aren't driving or performing another activity that threatens someone else.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:05 pm to fallguy_1978
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It's absolutely illegal to snort some coke in your living room. The cops could come into your house (with proper probable cause), arrest you and put you in prison.
Once it’s injested what are they going to do? Unless they catch you in possession, what’s the charge for being high inside your own home, and how can they enter your home with no probable cause?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:05 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Anyone who thinks meth or heroin should be legal are fricking idiots.
What have we accomplished by making it illegal?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:06 pm to BurningHeart
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Possession
That’s not what you said in your previous post
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:06 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Because eventually it does effect everyone personally. Mental illness creates homeless people, drugs can exacerbate the number of homeless people, homeless people exist in public spaces.
Are you trying to say we shouldn't care what happens in public spaces?
Should we care if people are shooting up drugs on the sidewalk and leaving their needles behind?
We have to draw a line somewhere.
Legalizing more drugs....yes...all drugs? Not practical
Yeah, I'm guessing most of the people in here advocating that opiates should be legal haven't been to SF, Seattle or Portland recently. Those cities are turning into literal shite holes due to not enforcing drug laws. You can argue that jailing addicts isn't the best solution, but I don't see any argument for possession and open usage being better or sustainable.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:06 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Because eventually it does effect everyone personally. Mental illness creates homeless people, drugs can exacerbate the number of homeless people, homeless people exist in public spaces.
bullshite... Legalizing is not going to exacerbate the issue that you attribute to drug use. There’s nothing to support that.
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Are you trying to say we shouldn't care what happens in public spaces?
I’m saying it’s none of you business.
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Should we care if people are shooting up drugs on the sidewalk and leaving their needles behind?
What’s stopping them now?
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We have to draw a line somewhere.
You draw entirely too many lines as it is, and that’s the issue.
Who are you to tell me that if I come down with an illness some time in the future where something like marijuana will ease my pain, that I can’t use that to ease my pain, or that I need special permission to do so, especially since it’s grown naturally on the earth?
You want to talk about immoral? THAT’s what’s immoral, and we do it.
Everyone always says how glad we aren’t a theocracy and how we used TJ’s wall to refrain from becoming like Europe, yet we are doing the exact same thing without religion. We are legislating morality just the same.
I have absolutely ZERO desire to smoke pot, or do drugs, but I also have ZERO desire to live in a country that tells other people what they can and cannot take into their own personal bodies that does not affect anyone else as if I have some kind of fricking jurisdiction over them.
Land of Liberty? You fricking with me?
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:08 pm to BurningHeart
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Drugs should be legal to use by adults as long as they aren't driving or performing another activity that threatens someone else.
Agreed as long as taxpayers dont have to pay for your rehab or provide financial assistance because you cant keep a job due to your choice of using an addictive substance.....and that goes for alcohol as well.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:08 pm to MusclesofBrussels
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Yeah, I'm guessing most of the people in here advocating that opiates should be legal haven't been to SF, Seattle or Portland recently.
Yet, despite being illegal, SF, Seattle and Portland have lots of drug addicted homeless.
Prohibition does not work.
During the alcohol prohibition, it was sold as a way to clean up society. Jails would close, etc. What happened was violent crime increased dramatically.
Without prohibition, we wouldn't have the inner city gang culture that damn near ripped the country apart in the 80's and 90's.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:10 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Once it’s injested what are they going to do? Unless they catch you in possession, what’s the charge for being high inside your own home, and how can they enter your home with no probable cause?
I heard in South Dakota they'll draw blood and if there is drugs in it they'll charge you with possession
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yet, despite being illegal, SF, Seattle and Portland have lots of drug addicted homeless.
Prohibition does not work.
Maybe not, but those cities don't enforce possession or public usage laws. They've effectively made opiates legal
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:10 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Possession
That’s not what you said in your previous post
I said using drugs in the comfort of your own home.
Possession is a crime and use is a crime. Idiotic laws.
What's your point?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:12 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Once it’s injested what are they going to do? Unless they catch you in possession, what’s the charge for being high inside your own home, and how can they enter your home with no probable cause?
Your argument is that as long as you are sneaky enough, you shouldn't be caught.
My point is that it shouldn't even be a crime for an adult to do what they want with their own body.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:12 pm to BurningHeart
"Small government" Republicans doing some work in this thread. 
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:13 pm to Mike da Tigah
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I have absolutely ZERO desire to smoke pot, or do drugs, but I also have ZERO desire to live in a country that tells other people what they can and cannot take into their own personal bodies that does not affect anyone else as if I have some kind of fricking jurisdiction over them.
Amen
I'm not going to lie, I'd probably smoke pot occasionally if it were legal and my employer didn't test for it. I can't so I don't but that beer or margarita really isn't any better for me.
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:14 pm to BurningHeart
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I said using drugs in the comfort of your own home.
Possession is a crime and use is a crime. Idiotic laws.
What's your point?
You said,
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It is idiotic that we put people in jail for ingesting a substance in the comfort of their own home.
And I said “we don’t” unless your are caught in possession no one is going to jail for ingesting a substance in the comfort of their own home unless another crime was committed.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:15 pm to MusclesofBrussels
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Maybe not, but those cities don't enforce possession or public usage laws. They've effectively made opiates legal
Because I’m California it’s a misdemeanor to be under the influence
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