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re: Should all children receive a trophy in sports even if they lose?

Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:08 pm to
Its like my dad said, "getting a shitty trophy isn't going to make you run faster or jump higher. The pain you feel from not getting one will make you work to run faster and jump higher"
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

"getting a shitty trophy isn't going to make you run faster or jump higher. The pain you feel from not getting one will make you work to run faster and jump higher"


Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

This whole everyone get a trophy culture was started by the Big Trophy Lobby in the 90s. We are playing right into their hands.

You do realize this wasn't started in the 90s?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57400 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:12 pm to
And seriously, no...I do not think all kids should get trophies. HBO Real Sports just did a segment on this and it was pretty well done and I was surprised to hear the stance coming from Liberal HBO

LINK

Dr. Robert Cloninger, professor of psychiatry at Washington University in St. Louis School of Medicine has been studying the effects of rewards with rats in mazes. He found that rats that received food just for working their way through the maze were lazy. “They will not be fast runners to get to the trophy, and they will quit easily the moment they are no longer getting rewarded.”

He concludes that children won’t be able to succeed if we pretend that they don’t fail. Cloninger says, “We have to get over the notion that everyone has to be a winner in the United States, it just isn’t true.”




Video teaser of segment



One study also mentioned that recent polls among college students showed that although grades have dropped over the last 40 years, students polled today overwhelmingly think their grades should be higher and I think it mentioned some of them think they deserve a B just for showing up.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Negative Nomad
Hell
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:13 pm to
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:14 pm to
I was a kid of the 90s and would get a trophy for sports probably from ages 4-8. They would just give them out at a pool party at the end of the season or whatever. I don't think it's that bad, because we all knew it was kinda bullshite and didn't compare to getting a real trophy or award like grownups did. I don't think it affected our self esteem or turned us into pussies who thought everyone was the same. I think there are a lot worse things parents do to their kids' sports.
Posted by GolfingTiger
Gonzales
Member since Oct 2004
292 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:18 pm to
NO
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:18 pm to
No.

When I played youth baseball there were two trophies. There was a first place trophy and then a "sportsmanship" trophy that was given to the worst team. That sportsmanship trophy really got your asses laughed at. Even as preteen boys we didn't understand or think it was right to get a reward for being terrible.

In the big game of life, not everyone wins. Not everyone gets the job offer.
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1869 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:21 pm to
no
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68609 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

No
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Up to a certain age, yes imo. (like 7-8) ps - to clarify - Im talking about a participation trophy with the actual champs getting a larger trophy.

This.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

There was a first place trophy and then a "sportsmanship" trophy that was given to the worst team.


Another reason welding is better than sports, if you get a shitty trophy then it's your fault, you welded it together. Wanna better trophy, be a better welder.
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1869 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:27 pm to
agree but

not getting trophy for finishing last is not a punishment.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22548 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

However, when they are 4-6 year old playing T-ball the only ones who really care about wins and losses are parents anyway so who cares. From experience of officiating youth sports most kids that age have no idea who won/loss anyway.


So why not just give out trophies when it does matter to the kids? I say at that age just go out for pizza or something.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22548 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

it mentioned some of them think they deserve a B just for showing up.


at least a D
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57400 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:40 pm to
Yeah, D or B..close enough. I couldn't remember exactly what it said.



Either way, the point is youth today thinks they deserve more than they work for...I think it's just that simple. Entitlement syndrome that is plaguing this country.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112948 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:41 pm to
I don't think every kid should get a trophy, but this below isn't bad logic IMO

quote:

I will agree to this as long as the people in the top 3 places get bigger trophies and they are acknowledged as the winners. Sports don't always have to be about life lessons or winning and losing. Sometimes we do sports just to have fun. The trophies can build confidence for kids and encourages them to try other events because children often don't participate due to the fear of losing.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:47 pm to
No
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33222 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:51 pm to
No, I don't believe in positive reinforcement.
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
Member since Nov 2011
6185 posts
Posted on 8/13/15 at 1:56 pm to
I coach a under 11 city rec hardball team. City gave me participation certificates to give each player. So I gather them around, parents within earshot. And told them that " they should try to win and strive to be champions in everything they do. School, home and sports."Then handed out certificates. Patents seemed to like my stance.
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