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re: Ships of The Line - 1800
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:07 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:07 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Tour of the constitution is on my bucket list.
I wonder if the knowledge base still exists to sail and maintain a masted warship
It absolutely does. I did the 4th of July Underway Demonstration in 2011 - I entered the USN "lottery" for a chance to do the July 4th event and my name was pulled. We were stationed in MD at the time and made the trip to Boston for the event. Still have the notification email.
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:10 am to Darth_Vader
quote:RMS Hood was sunk by the Bismark in May of '41, only 3 of her 1418 crew survived.
My personal favorite British ship name is the HMS Indefatigable.
She met her fate in 1916 at the Battle of Jutland, taking all but three of her crew down with her.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:15 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Tour of the constitution is on my bucket list.
A must do while in Boston. Have visited the Connie many times. Also, Paul Revere's house is a must along with the historical trail.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:55 am to Spaceman Spiff
It's a great walking tour. You can take the ferry from the aquarium to Charlestown
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:56 am to Spaceman Spiff
Man that is awesome. I figured that it would be a lost art by now.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:22 am to Mr Happy
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Patrick O'Brian wrote the Jack Aubrey series (from which M&C was made) and Alexander Kent wrote the Richard Bolitho series which take place at about the time of the war with the American colonies.
This is a 21 book series. One of the finest book sites on life during that period.
Book 21 ends mid sentence as the author, Patrick Obrien, did while writing it. It didn't have a title when he died, so the publisher simply named it 21.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:30 am to BlackPawnMartyr
quote:Except that Master and Commander is about frigates, not ships of the line. They served very different purposes, engaged in very different activities, and were quite different in size and scale. It would be like comparing a WWII battleship (like the U.S.S. Alabama in Mobile), with a WWII destroyer (like the U.S.S. Kidd in Baton Rouge).
Ships of The Line - 1800 ... epic dramas as ... the movie Master and Commander
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:34 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Man that is awesome. I figured that it would be a lost art by now.
They are fully versed in sailing the ship. There is USN crew that mans it. Here is a small demo I could find. It was freaking awesome.
USS Constitution Sailing
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:37 am to The Ramp
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It's a great walking tour. You can take the ferry from the aquarium to Charlestown
Most definitely. The Boston Common Gardens is the oldest public "park" in the nation. Love the walking tour - and one of the two Cheers bars is very close to it. Mother Goose's grave is in one of the small cemeteries found among the city building. Kind of odd to see all these very old cemeteries in all the modern stuff.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:57 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Kind of odd to see all these very old cemeteries in all the modern stuff.
you can see cpt daniel malcolm's gravestone still riddled with british musket balls. fascinating
Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:25 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
I believe the columns that were just outside the Victory's Captain's Cabin are in New Orleans. At least they used to be. Patrick Taylor had them. I had to step over them on the way to their conference room.
Bonus from Churchill:
"All the British Navy ever gave to the world was Rum, Buggery, and the Lash."
Bonus from Churchill:
"All the British Navy ever gave to the world was Rum, Buggery, and the Lash."
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:25 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
I watched that whole 25 minute show about the ship. Thats incredible stuff.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:01 pm to Mr Happy
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Theare two good series of historical fiction on the Royal Navy. Patrick O'Brian wrote the Jack Aubrey series (from which M&C was made) and Alexander Kent wrote the Richard Bolitho series which take place at about the time of the war with the American colonies.
I read them both and the Horatio Hornblower series. IMO, Hornblower and Aubrey are head and shoulders above the others (Ramage was another). Hornblower is faster and more adventurous. Aubrey/Maturin has better character development and humor. Both are excellent swashbuckling fiction.
The Sharpe series, by Bernard Cornwell, is Horatio Hornblower in the British army. It is also very good.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:57 pm to Penrod
Been enjoying this book...
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Seapower States explores the premise that a small collection of societies in the Levant and western Europe evolved unique solutions to the challenges of becoming powerful in a world dominated by large land empires.
The book features detailed explanations of how Athens, Carthage, Venice, the Dutch Republic, and England/the United Kingdom became focused on naval force and built political and economic systems closely tied to the sea and why they became different than Persia, Rome, medieval Europe, and France.
It also looks at some smaller sea states like Rhodes and Genoa to contrast the difference between a society tied to the sea and a society that used the sea to achieve great power.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:05 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
If you want to get real deep, you should read the Aubrey–Maturin series.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 4:22 pm to mule74
Love this kind of stuff. The Hornblower series is very good. The Explorers podcast has a nice nine-episode series on Captain James Cook.
I have not been on the USS Constitution, but hope to one day. I have been on the USS Constellation twice and it's a cool frigate. There is some debate on whether it is the original sister ship of the USS Constitution or a later rebuild. Either way, she's a cool ship.
If in Philly, you can see the USS Olympia which is a beautiful ship with a storied history. She served in the Spanish-American war and also in WWI and brought back the Unknown soldier from that war. The craftsmanship of a ship built when we were not at war and were trying to impress people is in contrast with ships built during WWII, like the USS Alabama or USS Yorktown.
I have not been on the USS Constitution, but hope to one day. I have been on the USS Constellation twice and it's a cool frigate. There is some debate on whether it is the original sister ship of the USS Constitution or a later rebuild. Either way, she's a cool ship.
If in Philly, you can see the USS Olympia which is a beautiful ship with a storied history. She served in the Spanish-American war and also in WWI and brought back the Unknown soldier from that war. The craftsmanship of a ship built when we were not at war and were trying to impress people is in contrast with ships built during WWII, like the USS Alabama or USS Yorktown.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:36 pm to fr33manator
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Also, the defeat of the Spanish Armada may have been the most pivotal naval event in history.
Agreed. LINK ]Garrett Mattingly-The Armada
It’s always baffled me that Ad Men would name a high dollar automobile Armada. Or Cressida for that matter.
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